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  1. #1
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    Default single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    Going to shoot the 72 GS350 in the original Burnished Copper... what is the consensus on what type of paint I should go with? What tip size should I use with this light metallic color? What PSI do you usually run at the gun with an HVLP? Thanks painters!
    Mitch D
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    Default Re: single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    I would never spray a metallic color in single stage. You can't wet sand and buff it if you need. Base clear is the only way to go.
    Steven

    1965 Skylark - Best 1/4 Mile 11.05 @121.31 ~ Best Nitrous 10.04 @ 133.35
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    Default Re: single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    That's what I'm reading... anybody like a specific brand of paint?
    Mitch D
    Bremerton, WA

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    83 Regal Wagon T-Type Running Gear
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    Default Re: single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    23-25psi at the gun with HVLP. As already stated, base/clear on metallics. Use a 1.3 fluid nozzle if you have one. I've been using Dupont for 30 years and am very happy with it but I'm sure you'll get varying opinions on brand.
    Bill

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    Default Re: single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    I think all the majors: PPG, DuPont, Sikkens have an excellent product these days. Excellent and really expensive. A lot of the shops around here have gone water based base coats. From what the painters tell me, it is excellent but takes some getting used to.
    Steven

    1965 Skylark - Best 1/4 Mile 11.05 @121.31 ~ Best Nitrous 10.04 @ 133.35
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    Default Re: single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    water based... I have seen some stuff on that... That would just be strange to this old dog... might as well look into it... I loves to save me some $$$
    Mitch D
    Bremerton, WA

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    69 SS427 Nova

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    66 Skylark GS Post 401 4-Speed
    65 Skylark 300 Auto
    83 Regal Wagon T-Type Running Gear
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    63 Electra Convertible
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    Default Re: single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buickgs1 View Post
    water based... I have seen some stuff on that... That would just be strange to this old dog... might as well look into it... I loves to save me some $$$
    I did not mean to imply it was cheaper. I actually don't know the price difference. You will spend far more money on the clear coat and dry products than you will on base coat. That is the cheap part if there is such a thing when talking about body shop supplies.
    Steven

    1965 Skylark - Best 1/4 Mile 11.05 @121.31 ~ Best Nitrous 10.04 @ 133.35
    10 Second Drag Strip Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKABJ...2&feature=plcp
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    Default Re: single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    So how much base and clear do you think I will need to do the complete job? Quarts... gallon?
    Mitch D
    Bremerton, WA

    Got Em
    66 Skylark GS 401 4-Speed
    72 GS350 Auto
    70 GS455 Auto
    69 SS427 Nova

    Let Em' Go
    71 Skylark 350 Auto
    67 GS400 Auto
    65 Skylark GS Convertible 401 4-Speed
    66 Skylark GS Post 401 4-Speed
    65 Skylark 300 Auto
    83 Regal Wagon T-Type Running Gear
    84 Regal T-Type 231 Auto
    63 Electra Convertible
    71 GS455 Auto
    72 GS455 Stage 1 Auto
    70 GS455 Auto
    69 GS400 Stage 1 Auto
    67 Sport Wagon 340 Auto

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    Default Re: single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    Are you jamming it or just a repaint? I am using a gallon of bc and a gallon of clear for mine but I am not jamming. You will probably need a gallon and a half if you jam.
    Bret
    71 Skylark Custom

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    Default Re: single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buickgs1 View Post
    So how much base and clear do you think I will need to do the complete job? Quarts... gallon?
    It will depend on which clear you choose. Some go a little further than others. If you choose dupont, and you are doing the jambs, you might need 2 gallons of clear and 1 gallon of color for copper metallic. If you go PPG, you might get by with a gallon and a half. Of course, if you don't paint often, a little extra is good for oopsy and what not.
    Steven

    1965 Skylark - Best 1/4 Mile 11.05 @121.31 ~ Best Nitrous 10.04 @ 133.35
    10 Second Drag Strip Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKABJ...2&feature=plcp
    Past Buicks:
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    63 Buick Invicta Wagon (The Battleship Invicta)
    71 Skylark
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    87 T-Type Turbo

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    Default Re: single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    I would say 1 gallon of base and 2 gallons of clear.
    I've shot just about every type of paint and brand of paint in the past 20 years. Solvent based and water based.
    Dupont, PPG, Sikkens, ect, all the big name brands all good stuff. All have their good and bad points.
    For a complete paint job, inside and out, i really like Sherwin Williams (Martin Senior,, the same thing). The base coat lays down super nice, and their clear is amazing.
    Just my personal choice for a nice car. Now for everyday production (what i do for a living) PPG is pretty much the industry standard. User friendly, but the base coat is a little transparent and heavy metalics can lay down a little rough compared to others.
    Like i said, you can't go wrong with any of the big name brands. It basically boils down to user choice. Just make sure you get a good urethane paint. Stay away from the enamels and laquers.

    Good luck man!
    Craig

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    Default Re: single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    Cool! Thanks for all the reply's!
    Mitch D
    Bremerton, WA

    Got Em
    66 Skylark GS 401 4-Speed
    72 GS350 Auto
    70 GS455 Auto
    69 SS427 Nova

    Let Em' Go
    71 Skylark 350 Auto
    67 GS400 Auto
    65 Skylark GS Convertible 401 4-Speed
    66 Skylark GS Post 401 4-Speed
    65 Skylark 300 Auto
    83 Regal Wagon T-Type Running Gear
    84 Regal T-Type 231 Auto
    63 Electra Convertible
    71 GS455 Auto
    72 GS455 Stage 1 Auto
    70 GS455 Auto
    69 GS400 Stage 1 Auto
    67 Sport Wagon 340 Auto

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    Default Re: single stage vs. base coat/clear coat paint.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buickgs1 View Post
    Cool! Thanks for all the reply's!
    If you are doing your own wet sanding you will to kill yourself before you are done.
    Bret
    71 Skylark Custom

 

 

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