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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by ken betts View Post
    ... our effort this fall will show just what this block is capable of. We have had the big boys look at this block and have said it looks strong enough for 4500 HP
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    I cant wait !! I bet Mike will have some sleepless nites coming up.

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Cool set up, can't wait to see more.
    Craig
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    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by 69GS400s View Post
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    I cant wait !! I bet Mike will have some sleepless nites coming up.

    ... Awesome news

    Alan we already have a Cape on the Supercat. See attached photoswith Nailhead installed
    All we can say is thanks for the praise and compliments on the project .
    As said earlier we want this project of TA's to be a success, so we are building this engine to compete at a top level class. Buick has not been competitive in this class since the early 60's.
    The more interest there is in this block program the more likely new parts will be offered sooner. This program and associated parts is what the Buick community needs to be more competitive against brand X.
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    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by JESUPERCAT View Post
    Alan we already have a Cape on the Supercat. See attached photoswith Nailhead installed
    All we can say is thanks for the praise and compliments on the project .
    As said earlier we want this project of TA's to be a success, so we are building this engine to compete at a top level class. Buick has not been competitive in this class since the early 60's.
    The more interest there is in this block program the more likely new parts will be offered sooner. This program and associated parts is what the Buick community needs to be more competitive against brand X.
    100% agree !!
    Eric
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    I was asked to put up a few shots of what the car looks like under the skin so here are a few on the jig. Also two shots to show how much difference a 13 hr 2 person paint job can change the appearance (size and shape) of a vehicle.

    The car has a 6.0 second certification as of now good for 3 years= cost 175.00.
    The car has passed unlimited nostalgia top fuel = cost for 1 year over 200.00 . So we know if needed we can get the car re-certified as needed.

    If you have a question feel free to ask
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    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    so let me guess you guys are going to be the first Buick powered car to go over 200mph in a 1/4?
    Eric
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    Someday a 464 BBB STAGE 2 Head's Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by killrbuick66455 View Post
    so let me guess you guys are going to be the first Buick powered car to go over 200mph in a 1/4?
    2 Buick powered cars have already gone past 200. No Buick has yet to go 210 and beyond yet .
    We are shooting to be the first Buick to run Nostalgia top fuel.
    With some possible new rules changes in the works we may run in the Top Dragster category at regional and national events.
    The higher the placement the better the attention for Buick
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    ill make a prediction ill say 240-250 MPH 4500 HP it should do it
    Eric
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    72 RIVIERA
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    Someday a 464 BBB STAGE 2 Head's Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by JESUPERCAT View Post
    2 Buick powered cars have already gone past 200. No Buick has yet to go 210 and beyond yet .
    We are shooting to be the first Buick to run Nostalgia top fuel.
    With some possible new rules changes in the works we may run in the Top Dragster category at regional and national events.
    The higher the placement the better the attention for Buick
    Who went 200?
    1972 Buick GS 464
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Tom back around 68 the Frye brothers broke 200+ with an injected in-line twin Nailhead dragster . I believe it was around a 208 mph pass.
    More recent you have the Freeman,Gallina, and Duttweiler at the GS Nationals.6.75 @ 205.9
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvXE-...layer_embedded
    My understanding they are out to break that run this fall
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    After speaking with Ken tonight I thought I would give a quick update.
    Tuesday ken is planning to pickup the 10 rods and pistons from Venolia .We will post a shot or two when we have them.

    Crower has the order and the weights can now be given to them for the piston and rods.

    I have one of the two induction systems here and the fuel system is ready to go.
    TA has our new custom solid heads and will be working on them soon .
    I will be speaking with Peterson fluid systems in the next few days to set up the wet sump oiling system. Oil pan will be mocked up and sent out soon.

    The fuel and mag drive should be completed in the next week or so.

    We will post pictures of the parts and pieces as we have them.
    Remember that this project is to highlight the TA block and to get the attention going for new Buick parts so we can all go faster .
    If you have a question just ask.

    We are hoping to achieve around 2000-2250 hp more would be nice, but we need to work with the heads we have for now. When better heads are available we will be ready for the upgrade.
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Jesupercat, I was wondering what cam your going with?? no Buick has made this kind of power before how do you know what size to go with ? Trial and error ??
    Eric
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    Someday a 464 BBB STAGE 2 Head's Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Maybe I can shed some light on this one. We all know that the sun doesn't rise or set on Buicks, but there will be a place in history for high performance Buicks! There are already cam cores available. We have one in the motor now. We will order 2 more tomorrow and probably have them ground in Calif. With head flow, valve size, bore, stroke, fuel type, RPM, Boost intake type, timing, etc. etc., all of which we know but cannot disclose for obvious reasons, the cam will be easy to pick out. The specs. are already known. Some things are going slower than what we expected, but that's racing. We are already developing the next two generation cylinder heads. One of which TA already has (oops, I hope that was OK) but have to be made solid for nitro-methane fuel. For all those skeptics who don't think 200MPH will be a piece of cake. Watch naturally aspirated pro stocks who carry 1000# more and you can hardly compare race fuel with nitro-methane, add the blower and "presto" 200MPH on your warm up passes. I know I made it sound easy, it's not, but very doable. Time will tell, reality doesn't lie. There are some of us who think the sun will set on this one! kenny betts

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    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Hey Ken, woundnt it be a kick in the pants if you got the car beating the competition and the car gets outlawed..... LOL I think of the most Dumbest things...
    Eric
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    72 SKYLARK 350 CUSTOM
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    70 Skylark 350 Formally Jessica Rabbit (Jessie)
    Someday a 464 BBB STAGE 2 Head's Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Don't laugh, ask motorman how many times his Buick got bumped to the next highest class because he beat the pants off the competition!

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Eric that is not a "dumb" thought it is a very serious issue.
    We have been in touch with the "Powers That Be" at NHRA. We are on track and as they say good to go . Everything that is being done is being checked against the rule book. We are trying to not even get into the grey areas . We will be at several events long before we try to max out the combos. Through testing we will know what the car and I are capable of and will work in safe mode to have some fun.

    As for the cam set-up.... Once we have all the numbers of all the different components, we will give that to the cam grinder, who has been doing fuel cams since the early 60's. The cam is based on the numbers not the engine brand.Thankfully.......
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by JESUPERCAT View Post
    Eric that is not a "dumb" thought it is a very serious issue.
    We have been in touch with the "Powers That Be" at NHRA. We are on track and as they say good to go . Everything that is being done is being checked against the rule book. We are trying to not even get into the grey areas . We will be at several events long before we try to max out the combos. Through testing we will know what the car and I are capable of and will work in safe mode to have some fun.

    As for the cam set-up.... Once we have all the numbers of all the different components, we will give that to the cam grinder, who has been doing fuel cams since the early 60's. The cam is based on the numbers not the engine brand.Thankfully.......

    Well, With that being said I guess it wasn't such a (Dumb) question after all...
    Eric
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    70 SKYLARK 462
    71 SKYLARK 350
    72 SKYLARK 350 CUSTOM
    72 RIVIERA
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/350b...rformancegroup
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    70 Skylark 350 Formally Jessica Rabbit (Jessie)
    Someday a 464 BBB STAGE 2 Head's Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
    BPG Member 1232
    North Eastern Chapter Member 235

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    I was actually told to not run the car at its capacity for the first few events so it would not start any issues. This was repeated by a few of the folks at Events, NHRA and a few tracks that I frequent . When getting people to warm up to new ideas it is better to be diplomatic. We will be the only Buick running at this level as of now, so we get more laughs than issues. Once the events start to go by we will turn it up a bit gradually and watch the complaints come in. By that time we would have passed tech several times, and competed in several events, which will make it a difficult fight for anyone who complains .
    Hoping to post some more pictures later today of some new parts.
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    I would think that in that class that they only run Hemi's its kinda like hemi vs stage 1 feud all over again but on on a different level.Question are you guys running Dual magneto's ?
    Eric
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    Someday a 464 BBB STAGE 2 Head's Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    i cant wait to see these heads

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Ken was busy running after parts today.
    Here are some pictures that were taken today. More aluminum for the cause .
    10 Pistons, Pins,and Ring sets
    10 Rods

    I bet most of you thought we were building a V8


    Yes we have some spare parts. If you have them maybe you won't need them .
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    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Slick stuff guys, we'll have to come check it out in person next time we're over in the area
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by slimfromnz View Post
    i cant wait to see these heads
    Royden neither can we. Many people put a lot of thought into the heads. This will be evident when they are done. As with the Tomahawk block a lot of thought was done in advance of even beginning the project. Anyone who has seen one of these blocks in person can see just a part of the potential it holds.
    The heads we are working on will be an intermediate head in the full scope of this project. If all goes well, we will go to the next step, using what we learn from these heads.

    Eric we are using a large single Mag. The fuel pump is capable of pushing about 18 gallons of fuel per minute. As for Hemi -vs- Buick we were told it will never happen as the Buick is not capable of the power needed......This was said by a few people that have since seen what we are up to first hand. Lets just say they are looking forward to its first competition outing
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Any idea when the heads are going to be Ready ??
    Eric
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    70 SKYLARK 462
    71 SKYLARK 350
    72 SKYLARK 350 CUSTOM
    72 RIVIERA
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/350b...rformancegroup
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1435...?ref=bookmarks
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    Someday a 464 BBB STAGE 2 Head's Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
    BPG Member 1232
    North Eastern Chapter Member 235

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by killrbuick66455 View Post
    Any idea when the heads are going to be Ready ??
    The solid heads are almost done. We are waiting for the final machining and assembly. Valve sizes, springs, rockers, and spark plug hole placement have all been determined. Now just waiting our turn on the job roster .

    We are planning to post updates as soon as we have info and more pictures. We are hoping that what we do has a positive effect on the R/D side of the Tomahawk parts.

    Off to have the new front tires mounted and balanced for the dragster.

    Mike if you are up towards Flagstaff give me a call.
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

 

 
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