Welcome to V8Buick.com.
Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 51 to 75 of 125
  1. #51
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Horseshoe Bend, Ar.
    Posts
    686

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    JESUPERCAT, You said the short block you are running now is for your twin turbo car rt? Are you going to make 2000+hp on that engine too? I know you know pressuring a engine is the way to go today. I would figure you could hit that magical number using methanol like some of the fastest Turbo guy's out there. I have know doubt The Tomahawk Block can handle that power, it's the Cylinder heads that Darin Morgan, Jon Kaase, and I have talked about. I can't wait untill I see this new heads T/A has. I hope you reach your goal and make a statement with the Buick engine...... Nitromethane is fun to play with if you are good at... Good Luck Gary McGruther
    This Riviera is the one I'm looking to buy, It's a 1978 Buick Riviera. I see big things coming forward out this monster!

  2. #52
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    654

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    i cant wait to see these heads

    Regards
    Royden Hardcastle
    1928 Dodge Brothers Senior 6
    TA555cui BBB #0291110
    Yep, the only one in the Southern Hemisphere

  3. #53
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Space Coast Florida
    Posts
    1,772

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Ken was busy running after parts today.
    Here are some pictures that were taken today. More aluminum for the cause .
    10 Pistons, Pins,and Ring sets
    10 Rods

    I bet most of you thought we were building a V8


    Yes we have some spare parts. If you have them maybe you won't need them .
    Attached Images Attached Images
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

  4. #54
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Horseshoe Bend, Ar.
    Posts
    686

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    JESUPERCAT, I noticed no valve relieves in the pistons, Are this pistons being modified by you? Those rods are for some serious business..
    This Riviera is the one I'm looking to buy, It's a 1978 Buick Riviera. I see big things coming forward out this monster!

  5. #55
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Scottsdale, Arizona
    Posts
    1,260

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Slick stuff guys, we'll have to come check it out in person next time we're over in the area
    < Click to Visit

    Quote: "I would love to use the TA Aluminum 455 block and a set of TA Stage 2 TE heads to build a 700 CI engine
    that looks stock, idles smooth and makes enough torque to stop the rotation of the earth"

    Michael Tomaszewski Jr.
    Website/Catalog/Ad Management
    My Car: 1970 Skylark 350-4


    Pictures:
    TA Rover Head
    TA 455 Block

  6. #56
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Space Coast Florida
    Posts
    1,772

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by slimfromnz View Post
    i cant wait to see these heads
    Royden neither can we. Many people put a lot of thought into the heads. This will be evident when they are done. As with the Tomahawk block a lot of thought was done in advance of even beginning the project. Anyone who has seen one of these blocks in person can see just a part of the potential it holds.
    The heads we are working on will be an intermediate head in the full scope of this project. If all goes well, we will go to the next step, using what we learn from these heads.

    Eric we are using a large single Mag. The fuel pump is capable of pushing about 18 gallons of fuel per minute. As for Hemi -vs- Buick we were told it will never happen as the Buick is not capable of the power needed......This was said by a few people that have since seen what we are up to first hand. Lets just say they are looking forward to its first competition outing
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

  7. #57
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Horseshoe Bend, Ar.
    Posts
    686

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    JESUPERCAT, Anything is possible in today's day in age. Mike Moran Has proven that, well over 2000 pony's on a BBC with twin turbos, If he would add Nitromethane to the mix it would be playing in the same ball park as any KB engine. He is now building a Mutte engine it has alittle of every engine in it and it's only 550 cubic inch, he is planning on having 3000 on methanol assisted. I know the tomahawk engine can and will compete with the hemi its lot to do with the cylinder head design, I wish any and all who is on this project the best of luck. Gary McGruther
    This Riviera is the one I'm looking to buy, It's a 1978 Buick Riviera. I see big things coming forward out this monster!

  8. #58
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    East Northport Long Island N.Y
    Posts
    2,290

    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Any idea when the heads are going to be Ready ??
    Eric
    NYCTA
    Past Buick's
    84 regal 462 11.78@112 (pump gas) sold in 99
    66 SKYLARK
    70 SKYLARK 462
    71 SKYLARK 350
    72 SKYLARK 350 CUSTOM
    72 RIVIERA
    -------------------------
    70 Skylark 350 Formally known as Jessica Rabbit (Jessie)
    Someday a 464 BBB STG-2 TE Heads EZ-EFI Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
    2001 Regal GS
    BPG Member 1232
    North Eastern Chapter Member 235

  9. #59
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Space Coast Florida
    Posts
    1,772

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by killrbuick66455 View Post
    Any idea when the heads are going to be Ready ??
    The solid heads are almost done. We are waiting for the final machining and assembly. Valve sizes, springs, rockers, and spark plug hole placement have all been determined. Now just waiting our turn on the job roster .

    We are planning to post updates as soon as we have info and more pictures. We are hoping that what we do has a positive effect on the R/D side of the Tomahawk parts.

    Off to have the new front tires mounted and balanced for the dragster.

    Mike if you are up towards Flagstaff give me a call.
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

  10. #60
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    East Northport Long Island N.Y
    Posts
    2,290

    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Are you guys running a Buick type rocker shafts ? or a Chevy type system ?
    Eric
    NYCTA
    Past Buick's
    84 regal 462 11.78@112 (pump gas) sold in 99
    66 SKYLARK
    70 SKYLARK 462
    71 SKYLARK 350
    72 SKYLARK 350 CUSTOM
    72 RIVIERA
    -------------------------
    70 Skylark 350 Formally known as Jessica Rabbit (Jessie)
    Someday a 464 BBB STG-2 TE Heads EZ-EFI Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
    2001 Regal GS
    BPG Member 1232
    North Eastern Chapter Member 235

  11. #61
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    727

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    We are going to build a new bullet proof set up. When they are done we will post pictures. It will not be one shaft like the Buick nor the chevy type. We are trying to make everything bullet proof, but explosion proof, well that is another story we hope not to read. We are trying to have every part made available through TA Performance. They are helping with the development of each part so they can be made available to the performance enthusiast. We are hoping that what we are doing will give a baseline for all who follow that they may take what we are doing to the extreme.

  12. #62
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    East Northport Long Island N.Y
    Posts
    2,290

    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    I can't wait to get my hands on a TA block
    Eric
    NYCTA
    Past Buick's
    84 regal 462 11.78@112 (pump gas) sold in 99
    66 SKYLARK
    70 SKYLARK 462
    71 SKYLARK 350
    72 SKYLARK 350 CUSTOM
    72 RIVIERA
    -------------------------
    70 Skylark 350 Formally known as Jessica Rabbit (Jessie)
    Someday a 464 BBB STG-2 TE Heads EZ-EFI Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
    2001 Regal GS
    BPG Member 1232
    North Eastern Chapter Member 235

  13. #63
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Escondido, CA
    Posts
    1,211

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    I can't wait to see these cylinder heads. We need a "big chief" style head to take full advantage of these awesome TA blocks..... If the heads you guys are making do get to TA and are offered to the Buick community, they sound like the price would be sky high..I am very interested though, pics. and flow numbers will be what I need to see...
    Gary G.

  14. #64
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Horseshoe Bend, Ar.
    Posts
    686

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by badbuik View Post
    " We need a "big chief" style head
    Gary G.
    The ProFiler (Darin Morgan) Raptor Cylinder head is more powerfull . Please becarefull on the heads, I prefer Hemi style heads over standard canted, and rotated valves, Now if the heads are like the DRCE Prostock Chevy heads then you are talking some serious business then..
    This Riviera is the one I'm looking to buy, It's a 1978 Buick Riviera. I see big things coming forward out this monster!

  15. #65
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    East Northport Long Island N.Y
    Posts
    2,290

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by badbuik View Post
    I can't wait to see these cylinder heads. We need a "big chief" style head to take full advantage of these awesome TA blocks..... If the heads you guys are making do get to TA and are offered to the Buick community, they sound like the price would be sky high..I am very interested though, pics. and flow numbers will be what I need to see...
    Gary G.
    DITTO !!!
    Eric
    NYCTA
    Past Buick's
    84 regal 462 11.78@112 (pump gas) sold in 99
    66 SKYLARK
    70 SKYLARK 462
    71 SKYLARK 350
    72 SKYLARK 350 CUSTOM
    72 RIVIERA
    -------------------------
    70 Skylark 350 Formally known as Jessica Rabbit (Jessie)
    Someday a 464 BBB STG-2 TE Heads EZ-EFI Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
    2001 Regal GS
    BPG Member 1232
    North Eastern Chapter Member 235

  16. #66
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Space Coast Florida
    Posts
    1,772

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Gary and Eric I will try to find the flow numbers for the water jacketed heads we used for the mock up. We had to get past a few of the inevitable geometry issues. The new heads are solid with no water jackets so we will have a lot of aluminum we can remove to straighten things out, which will increase the flow substantially.
    We need to keep a fair amount of material separating the ports so we don't have any issues with the fuel we are using.
    I will put up the numbers when I find them. I will see if I can find a picture of the rocker assemblies similar to what we are using.
    Too much running around at the moment for work.
    I wish I did not have to earn a living (insert sponsor plug here). I am so into this project, I really enjoy working on it, and I truly can't wait to drive it
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

  17. #67
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Space Coast Florida
    Posts
    1,772

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    The Stage 4 heads (water cooled) we used in the mock-up were 2.3" intake that flowed 369 cfm @ .600.
    The exhaust valve was a 1.80" and flowed 284 @.600 .
    The exhaust valves we are using are larger, and with no water jackets our goal of 300 cfm + with the exhaust is very achievable.
    Last edited by JESUPERCAT; 08-31-2011 at 10:48 PM.
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

  18. #68
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Escondido, CA
    Posts
    1,211

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Well, I hoped for better numbers.... My TE's flow those numbers. These were "mock up" heads, the solid ones should be better, right?? I know a great head porter in Orange County California.... I had pretty high expectations, the TA block met these, now as I said we need heads... I'm still very interested in your project. Still would like to see pictures, whenever.
    Gary G.

  19. #69
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Space Coast Florida
    Posts
    1,772

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Gary The numbers will be much better than these.. This was the average number of the three flow test done at three different companies, in three totally different locations. We did this so we would have a base line to test against. As you know there can be a good/bad amount of variation in test numbers. I did not feel it reasonable to give the high numbers on this thread as as this would sound like an ad or something .
    We are trying to give an honest and practical play by play without exaggerating the numbers.
    As we proceed with the heads we will give the flow number average not the max. Trying to keep this realistic .

    I will post some pictures soon after I put my hands on the heads...
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

  20. #70
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Horseshoe Bend, Ar.
    Posts
    686

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Your gonna need numbers in the high 400 range to achieve your goal, and that is given. This company http://www.ultrapromachining.net/ should now they built this Canted and splayed valve head and it flows like hell.
    This Riviera is the one I'm looking to buy, It's a 1978 Buick Riviera. I see big things coming forward out this monster!

  21. #71
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Horseshoe Bend, Ar.
    Posts
    686

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Your gonna need numbers in the high 400 range to achieve your goal, and that is given. This company http://www.ultrapromachining.net/ should now they built this Canted and splayed valve head [/IMG] , [/IMG] and it flows like hell.
    This Riviera is the one I'm looking to buy, It's a 1978 Buick Riviera. I see big things coming forward out this monster!

  22. #72
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Horseshoe Bend, Ar.
    Posts
    686

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Oh by the way they didn't have to go use high tech roller rockers or shafts either. Prime example of what you need to get your project in the 2000+ Horse Power range and that's with lots of boost to boot. But you plan on running Nitromethane which is easily obtained with that stuff.
    This Riviera is the one I'm looking to buy, It's a 1978 Buick Riviera. I see big things coming forward out this monster!

  23. #73
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Scottsdale, Arizona
    Posts
    1,260

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by badbuik View Post
    Well, I hoped for better numbers.... My TE's flow those numbers.
    This is why we don't make Stage 3 or 4 heads anymore, our Stage 2 TE's have improved so much that they're at the level of the 3/4's but don't require any of the special parts. Much more practical compared to years ago when 3/4's were the king of the crop!
    < Click to Visit

    Quote: "I would love to use the TA Aluminum 455 block and a set of TA Stage 2 TE heads to build a 700 CI engine
    that looks stock, idles smooth and makes enough torque to stop the rotation of the earth"

    Michael Tomaszewski Jr.
    Website/Catalog/Ad Management
    My Car: 1970 Skylark 350-4


    Pictures:
    TA Rover Head
    TA 455 Block

  24. #74
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Posts
    1,188

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Gary, remember, we don't race flow benches and flow benches vary greatly!!!

    Mike, would you happen to know the difference in the port volume (in cc's) of the Stg2 TEs vs the Stg 4?

    The engine experts out there say that after a certain CID port volume is more important than flow numbers? In both naturally aspirated and forced induction engines.
    John R. Zerucha
    70 Skylark @2800 lbs
    8.78 @ 153 mph 535 Stage 4 2850 lbs
    8.97 @ 149 mph 523 Stage 4
    9.36 @ 143 mph 464 Stage 2
    9.77 @ 135 mph 464 Stage 1
    88 Hawk @2350 lbs
    8.06 @ 167 mph 535 Stage 4
    1973 Buick Apollo (In Process)

  25. #75
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Space Coast Florida
    Posts
    1,772

    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by Staged70Lark View Post
    The engine experts out there say that after a certain CID port volume is more important than flow numbers? In both naturally aspirated and forced induction engines.
    John this is also one of the reasons we chose the displacement we did. We went with what we felt the heads could handle. Our compression level will also allow a large tuning window (fuel volume,air pressure, and to a smaller degree timing) with the fuel we are using.
    I am willing to bet we will have one of the smallest displacement Tomahawks out there
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

 

 
Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. 455 Powered Dragster?
    By mltdwn12 in forum Race 400/430/455
    Replies: 53
    Last Post: 11-11-2014, 09:04 AM
  2. 455 Dragster Pan?
    By Rodney Byrd in forum Race 400/430/455
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 08-07-2008, 10:29 AM
  3. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 05-29-2008, 11:55 PM
  4. 455 dragster pics
    By exhaust plus in forum Race 400/430/455
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 06-25-2007, 08:25 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Back to top