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  1. #26
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    Looks good.

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    Are we cook'n with gas yet? Updates? Hang in there with it.
    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampedge View Post
    Are we cook'n with gas yet? Updates? Hang in there with it.
    Jim
    Just about there I finished laying up the mold yesterday. Big day today, First I'll drill a couple of 1/4" holes in each flange so the 4 pieces can be bolted back together. Then I'll seperate the mold from the "plug" (the patched together original) Then I can do the final trimming, see if there's any minor touch up to the mold surface. I'll post some more pic's after I pop the mold off.
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    71 GS 455 503 HP (flywheel)
    Best ET - 11.770 @112 mph,
    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    Craig, you are doing a very good job! I've seen my friends start things like this and end up with flimsy junk because they did not take the time to make the mold correctly. You're doing a good job man. I'm still in for a couple of them.
    Jim

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    Thanks Jim The mold is coming along, I rough trimmed it yesterday, now this weekend I'll do the final triming to the seperate pieces. It'll make it easier to clean up the edges, especially the two areas where the hoses pass through. Then water sand it smooth and see if there's any minor gel coat touch up.
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    71 GS 455 503 HP (flywheel)
    Best ET - 11.770 @112 mph,
    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    Craig, check your in box as I've sent you a pm.
    Jim

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    Is that fresh resin I smell on a new reproduction unit? MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Taste like chicken $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    LOL: Jim

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    Almost, I've been going out to the garage each night after work and water sanding the parts one piece at a time to get them ready for polishing this weekend. Last weekend I did a few touch ups to the mold once I had it apart. I have some work stuff to take care of the end of the month but I'm hoping to be laying up the first test shroud the last weekend of this month (as well as the next hood and a test radio bezel). At least these will be a heck of a lot easier to box and ship compared to my hood!
    Craig
    71 GS 455 503 HP (flywheel)
    Best ET - 11.770 @112 mph,
    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    Waiting with baited breath!!!
    "MaxBox"
    69 Gladiator
    Utility Box
    Buick 350-4V
    Front - GM 10 bolt w/Front Disc Brakes and locking hubs
    Rear - GM 10 Bolt 8.5"
    Custom front bumper with ??? winch

    EMS Helicopter Pilot in Woodward Ok.
    http://www.lifeteam.net

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    Any more pics brother?
    The ten commandments are not multiple choice.
    You really are judged by the dog(s) you own.
    1976 Jeep Cherokee. 315 hp 1970 GS 350.
    1970 Jeep Gladiator B350 but now has a Chevy 454.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampedge View Post
    Any more pics brother?
    Finished mold picture tomorrow
    Craig
    71 GS 455 503 HP (flywheel)
    Best ET - 11.770 @112 mph,
    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    Well I just need to hit the new fan shroud mold with a couple of coats of mold release wax and it's ready to go. Next weekend is out but the one after that I'll lay the first new part up and then see how it fits on the vehicle.
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    Craig
    71 GS 455 503 HP (flywheel)
    Best ET - 11.770 @112 mph,
    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    Man, You have tallent. Great work again like always.
    Richard Davis

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    Cook'n with gas now for sure!
    The ten commandments are not multiple choice.
    You really are judged by the dog(s) you own.
    1976 Jeep Cherokee. 315 hp 1970 GS 350.
    1970 Jeep Gladiator B350 but now has a Chevy 454.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mltdwn12 View Post
    Well I just need to hit the new fan shroud mold with a couple of coats of mold release wax and it's ready to go. Next weekend is out but the one after that I'll lay the first new part up and then see how it fits on the vehicle.
    Installed yet? Pics? Its summer and its hot, really could use a fan shroud
    "MaxBox"
    69 Gladiator
    Utility Box
    Buick 350-4V
    Front - GM 10 bolt w/Front Disc Brakes and locking hubs
    Rear - GM 10 Bolt 8.5"
    Custom front bumper with ??? winch

    EMS Helicopter Pilot in Woodward Ok.
    http://www.lifeteam.net

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    I laid up the first fan shroud yesterday. Learned a few things, mainly what order to lay it up, the mold has to be flipped over to get the top and bottom parts completely covered and you have to wait a certain amount of time before you can turn the side you just laid up over, so the glass doesn't fall off the mold. Going to go out this morning and rough trim it and then pop it out of the mold.....see what we have Pictures later today.
    Craig
    71 GS 455 503 HP (flywheel)
    Best ET - 11.770 @112 mph,
    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    OK, another learning, always have new sharp air saw blades when trimming a new part. I ran out and had to use the one in the saw, man it fought me A new blade will only last for one maybe two parts, but it's so much easier to trim! So here's the first shroud, out of the mold and rough trimmed. Also laid up a replacement radio bezel for the 70-72 GS/Skylark. Long pants, long sleeve shirt, head sock, respirator, safety glasses, gloves, shoes make for a warm morning, hence getting up early and knocking the itchy stuff out early! Now I can go back to my Phoenix garage survival dress; shorts, tank top and flip flops! I'll run up to the store, get some new blades, do dome close trimming followed by a block and sandpaper to get the edges smooth. I'm really happy the way the little horizontal braces came out, they're thin cavities in the mold and I was hoping I'd get those filled 100% without any voids.
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    71 GS 455 503 HP (flywheel)
    Best ET - 11.770 @112 mph,
    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    Trimmed up and painted
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    Craig
    71 GS 455 503 HP (flywheel)
    Best ET - 11.770 @112 mph,
    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    OK Jeep guys, needs some input I put the new shroud on the old radiator that was originally dropped off with the two broken shrouds. I noticed at the top, looking down, there appears to be a different gap side to side between the top of the shroud and the radiator. Then I took the one shroud I repaired to use as a plug for the mold, the red one, and again different gaps. I had another shroud that was in three big pieces, I put the side pieces on the radiator and again, different gap. Are they all like this? Can you look at your shroud if you have one mounted? I was unsure if I'd sell the shrouds if something was screwed up. At this point it's 2 out of two are different from side to side. See the pictures...... If it's eaiser shoot me an e-mail at mltdwn12@q.com
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    Craig
    71 GS 455 503 HP (flywheel)
    Best ET - 11.770 @112 mph,
    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    Quote Originally Posted by mltdwn12 View Post
    At this point it's 2 out of two are different from side to side. See the pictures...... If it's eaiser shoot me an e-mail at mltdwn12@q.com

    As for me, I'm not trying to do a restoration, I just want functionality. I'd even take one of the prototypes just to do anything to improve airflow and cooling.

    Randy
    "MaxBox"
    69 Gladiator
    Utility Box
    Buick 350-4V
    Front - GM 10 bolt w/Front Disc Brakes and locking hubs
    Rear - GM 10 Bolt 8.5"
    Custom front bumper with ??? winch

    EMS Helicopter Pilot in Woodward Ok.
    http://www.lifeteam.net

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    Randy, that's kind of what I was figuring. My shroud isn't a perfect 100% copy for a restoration. It's real close to a factory shroud though.
    Craig
    71 GS 455 503 HP (flywheel)
    Best ET - 11.770 @112 mph,
    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    That's fine for what I'm doing. My truck has a 454 chubby in it now so it does not matter any more. If it hits the fan I will make another set of engine mounts so that the fan is centered correctly.
    Jim
    The ten commandments are not multiple choice.
    You really are judged by the dog(s) you own.
    1976 Jeep Cherokee. 315 hp 1970 GS 350.
    1970 Jeep Gladiator B350 but now has a Chevy 454.

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    Hello Craig,
    I've had at least 4 sets of fan shrouds,
    as far as I know Mopar remanufactured the Fan Shrouds in the 1990's,
    and they were always had gaps against the radiator.

    I'm concerned that they have always cracked in the same area,
    weaker on the top and bottom due to age, heat and a brittle tendency to break.

    Is there a way to laminate in, something stronger, maybe carbon cloth, mixed into the fiberglass
    cloths, in those areas, or something to strengthen the tops or bottoms.

    I'm curious if you build up the top & bottom, thicker material if it will prevent it.

    So far your build is very good, reman techniques are meticulous.
    Thanks for taking this on, wish I could drive my 1970 J-3600 Gladiator back to Tucson, AZ
    where I purchased the truck in 1991.

    Mac
    1970 Kaiser J-3000 "MACS JPR"
    Buick 350v8, T18, D20, D44, D60
    Model J-3600, 3406X19 GLADIATOR
    Robert Maclay "MAC"
    Suisun City, California
    macjeeper@msn.com

    Yahoo Moderator: FSJ-List, CA_FSJA.

    1955 Willys Jeep CJ-5
    1963 Buick Skylark Convertible (sold 1985)
    1964 Willys Jeep J-300 Gladiator (stored)
    1968 Kaiser Jeep M-715 w/winch (stored)
    1981 AMC J-10 Honcho w/6 Cyl. (sold)

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    Thanks Mac I spent about 30 minutes out in the garage tonight (110 degrees!) with my new shroud, plus the busted up one I glued together for the plug and the pieces from a third shroud. I don't mind the gap, I can see the need, but I want them even. I'll sell the one I can make right now, but we're going to bolt the first one on to the vehicle this week and do a final check. It'll do if someone just wants a shroud instead of nothing, but I want to make a better product. I think I will take the pieces from the third shroud and piece it together and make another plug concentrating on making the top gap even. I really learned a lot doing this last mold in four pieces! I should have the new plug together by this weekend and then make a new mold. As for materials, I'm using vinyl ester resin, also know as Marine Resin. As strong as you can get without going exotic like carbon fiber or the expense of expoy resin. Resin is the biggest cost factor in making anything out of fiberglass. 5 gallons will run you about $160. More to come! The guy I got the shroud pieces from also has one from a similar year Jeep with a V-6, I may make one of those as well.
    Craig
    71 GS 455 503 HP (flywheel)
    Best ET - 11.770 @112 mph,
    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    Hello Craig,
    How far will the resin go to build a fan shroud?

    You surprised me on the materials factor, to build a fan shroud + your time.
    What do you think your final cost per Shroud will be?

    Sounds like I'll have to work overtime, lol
    Thanks, Mac

    PS: Thanks for sweating for us in AZ, I bought my truck south of Tucson, AZ in 1991.
    I remember the heat, Leaded Regular Gas was 99.9 Gallon then,
    Drove to Yuma in my non-A/C truck, with wide windows open and sweltering....

    Now live near the S.F. Bay Area Delta and the Summer Fog is blasting cool air outside,
    Wish I could send some cool air to you!
    1970 Kaiser J-3000 "MACS JPR"
    Buick 350v8, T18, D20, D44, D60
    Model J-3600, 3406X19 GLADIATOR
    Robert Maclay "MAC"
    Suisun City, California
    macjeeper@msn.com

    Yahoo Moderator: FSJ-List, CA_FSJA.

    1955 Willys Jeep CJ-5
    1963 Buick Skylark Convertible (sold 1985)
    1964 Willys Jeep J-300 Gladiator (stored)
    1968 Kaiser Jeep M-715 w/winch (stored)
    1981 AMC J-10 Honcho w/6 Cyl. (sold)

 

 
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