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  1. #26
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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Quote Originally Posted by waltonj View Post
    UPDATE- see pics. we'll be putting the motor and tranny in soon. I'm taking the restoration to a higher level than i initially wanted to and doing everything as correct as i can. Mostly because of some of the Buicks i've seen down in Bowling Green and other places. learning the meaning of patience.....

    Comment on my pictures if something catches your eyes.

    Thanks,

    Justen
    Justen,

    I can't tell, but is that your gas line/return line sticking out towards the center of the engine bay? If so they need to be routed through the frame and come out close to the gear box.

  2. #27
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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Looks good.
    A better match for the yellow clips is caterpiller yellow from Tractor Supply.
    The frame is a little too glossy for me.
    If you are putting a vynal top back on be sure to paint the roof and use the correct top from Legendary. Do not use the fuzzy back stuff.
    Steve Caruso
    Maker of reproduction N-25 exhaust hangers, chrome rally wheels, 68-72 Firewall grommet, MBM brake parts dealer.

    72 GSX clone. Pure Stock 350 13.45@ 100mph
    72 Stage 1 SunCoupe In process
    70 GS race car In process
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    Former rides,
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  3. #28
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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Looks good...oh man....54rich just saved you big time, I think! You can fix the fuel lines pretty easily now, but no way you could have done it easily later. Good eyes there 54rich...I can't believe I missed that.
    Frank St.Elmo

    BCA #45862
    OCA #035382
    1967 Buick GS400 2012 BCA Senior Preservation Award
    1969 Oldsmobile 442 OCA Sr. Preservation car
    1970 Buick GS455 Triple Black Convertible
    1999 Mustang Convertible
    1967 Buick Skylark

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Looks good. Nothing wrong woth going the extra mile. You can then not worry about thinking you had done it better. You even got the parking brake clips in the rear. Most people miss those Because they fell off years ago.

    ---------- Post added at 10:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:50 PM ----------

    Justen, Rich is correct. Both fuel line need to go through the frame and out the front. The fabric protects them inside the frame. You need to disconnect them from the halfway hose connections and feed the steel lines through the front first then re-connect the hoses.
    Dave, Seeing Yellow
    71 GS Stage-1 Now Sold.

    Now have real 70 GSX 4 Speed QQ

  5. #30
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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Here is a photo of the fuel lines in the frame.
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    Dave, Seeing Yellow
    71 GS Stage-1 Now Sold.

    Now have real 70 GSX 4 Speed QQ

  6. #31
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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    I am going to reroute the fuel lines tonight. thanks for the feedback, guess i didnt read the assembly manual close enough. it sucks not being the guy who took the car apart!

    Hard to tell, but the roof is painted in the picture, my body guy just never wasted his time (and my money) buffing any of it out.

    Thanks again, i'll post more pictures as the project develops.

  7. #32
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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    IMG-20130218-00101.jpg Does anybody know anything about the "shield" that is shown in the assembly manual that supposedly goes between the engine mount bracket and the engine block on the right side (passenger side)? I don't have the part anywhere. Is there someone who sells these?

  8. #33
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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Yes, It is a thin sheet metal shield only used on the right side. They usually rotted or got tossed. I think someone may have made these. Nick from Ivyland maybe?
    Dave, Seeing Yellow
    71 GS Stage-1 Now Sold.

    Now have real 70 GSX 4 Speed QQ

  9. #34
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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Thanks, he does have them for sale. Have you noticed that the engine mounts differ from left to right on the assembly manual (even different part numbers), but they are the same when you go to buy them? Not sure if mine are original or not, but they are identical. Every place you look they only sell one part number to fit the right and left side...

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    In 71 they changed to one part number. All NOS units sold at a later time would have been superceeded to the later part number that was the single multi sided unit. Is there a GM or maybe two GM part numbers on the side of the mounts? If there is no part number they are aftermarket mounts. I used two 71 part number NOS units on my 70 GSX without a problem.
    Dave, Seeing Yellow
    71 GS Stage-1 Now Sold.

    Now have real 70 GSX 4 Speed QQ

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    no GM part numbers. these things must be aftermarket. it is my understanding that the block cracked and was replaced back in the day. That is what the previous owner told my dad when he bought it. the casting number on the block is correct, but that would explain why the engine mounts are aftermarket. I'll most likely use the ones i have.

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Does anybody know if someone offers a detailing kit of some sort to complete all the factory markings/paint dabs/tags on the chassis?

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Duane..."the Buick Apostle".
    Frank St.Elmo

    BCA #45862
    OCA #035382
    1967 Buick GS400 2012 BCA Senior Preservation Award
    1969 Oldsmobile 442 OCA Sr. Preservation car
    1970 Buick GS455 Triple Black Convertible
    1999 Mustang Convertible
    1967 Buick Skylark

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    I make/sell the chassis sticker/tag kits for some year Gran Sports.

    My standard kit includes the following;
    Frame
    Front Swaybar
    Rear Swaybar (if needed)
    F&R Springs
    F&R Shocks
    Master Cylinder

    then I also sell a deluxe kit that includes all the above plus the following stickers;
    Throttle cable
    Steering Box
    Driverside Valve Cover

    The sticker sets I sell are put together for the specific car model/options that come on that particular car. This is not a "generic" set.

    The price and availability depends on the year and type kit you are looking for.
    Duane
    Duane Heckman, Owner of Classic Car Interiors

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Quote Originally Posted by copperheadgs1 View Post
    I can supply fuel and heater hose clamps all in the correct sizes and colors for cheaper than the big guys sell them. I can put together a complete kit. The heater hoses are different for a Flint car than GMAD built. I supply the flint style
    Copperheadgs1, Are you still able to supply heater hose and clamps?
    Send me a PM, thanks Brian

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Quote Originally Posted by copperheadgs1 View Post
    On a 70 there are three metallic green clips on the front brake lines. Two are under the engine and one is on top of the frame on the passenger side.


    Dave - are these particular clips green on all type of brakes ? What color would a 70 GS Stage 2 with power alum drums have ?
    Pat Sweeney
    70 GS Stage 2 IRON HEAD

    70 GS 455 bamboo sold
    70 GSX QQ Stage 1 auto sold
    71 GSX Stage 1 4sp cortez sold
    70 GSX QQ Stage 1 auto sold
    72 GS Stage 1 sold
    72 GS 455 red sold
    70 GS 350 4 sp green sold
    70 GS 350 gold sold
    70 GS 455 green sold
    70 GS 455 convt green sold
    70 GS 455 silver sold
    67 GS 400 convt 3sp sold
    and a few Skylarks..................

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Pat, which clips do you mean? Stage-2 has no bearing on anything as it was not an option on any factory car.
    Dave, Seeing Yellow
    71 GS Stage-1 Now Sold.

    Now have real 70 GSX 4 Speed QQ

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Are the emergency brake cables routed through the lower control arms? Tough to tell from the picture.
    Paul Massicotte
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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Quote Originally Posted by copperheadgs1 View Post
    Pat, which clips do you mean? Stage-2 has no bearing on anything as it was not an option on any factory car.
    Quote Originally Posted by copperheadgs1

    On a 70 there are three metallic green clips on the front brake lines. Two are under the engine and one is on top of the frame on the passenger side.


    Dave , You had mentioned this (above) earlier in this thread . I was asking if these clips are green on a drum brake car and and a disc brake car .I was thinking that Stage 2 means it is 455 if engine size has a bearing

    Thanks Pat
    Pat Sweeney
    70 GS Stage 2 IRON HEAD

    70 GS 455 bamboo sold
    70 GSX QQ Stage 1 auto sold
    71 GSX Stage 1 4sp cortez sold
    70 GSX QQ Stage 1 auto sold
    72 GS Stage 1 sold
    72 GS 455 red sold
    70 GS 350 4 sp green sold
    70 GS 350 gold sold
    70 GS 455 green sold
    70 GS 455 convt green sold
    70 GS 455 silver sold
    67 GS 400 convt 3sp sold
    and a few Skylarks..................

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Massicotte View Post
    Are the emergency brake cables routed through the lower control arms? Tough to tell from the picture.
    The E-brake cables are not routed through the control arms but are connected to them with hook then route over top of control arm to the backing plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weezin355 View Post
    The E-brake cables are not routed through the control arms but are connected to them with hook then route over top of control arm to the backing plate.
    Now I see it. Looking at it on my phone it looked like went through the hole where the sway bar goes.

    Chassis looks good.
    Paul Massicotte
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    1970 Buick Skylark 470 4 speed- 11.44 @ 122 MPH

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Paul,
    The brake line/fuel line clips are color coded by line sizes/types of clips, not engine sizes.

    That way they were easier to grab when first installing them.
    Duane
    Duane Heckman, Owner of Classic Car Interiors

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    And they would be green for the ones you mentioned. I painted mine with green anodized(spelling)? paint.
    Dave, Seeing Yellow
    71 GS Stage-1 Now Sold.

    Now have real 70 GSX 4 Speed QQ

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Quote Originally Posted by copperheadgs1 View Post
    And they would be green for the ones you mentioned. I painted mine with green anodized(spelling)? paint.
    Thanks Dave . I think I saw your GSX at the Nats. What a beauty , Nice Job !
    Pat Sweeney
    70 GS Stage 2 IRON HEAD

    70 GS 455 bamboo sold
    70 GSX QQ Stage 1 auto sold
    71 GSX Stage 1 4sp cortez sold
    70 GSX QQ Stage 1 auto sold
    72 GS Stage 1 sold
    72 GS 455 red sold
    70 GS 350 4 sp green sold
    70 GS 350 gold sold
    70 GS 455 green sold
    70 GS 455 convt green sold
    70 GS 455 silver sold
    67 GS 400 convt 3sp sold
    and a few Skylarks..................

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    Default Re: 1970 GS 455 Chassis Details

    Thanks Pat.
    Dave, Seeing Yellow
    71 GS Stage-1 Now Sold.

    Now have real 70 GSX 4 Speed QQ

 

 
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