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    Default 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    EDIT:
    I have edited this post for the new guys coming along that may not get to the good stuff.
    I have created a combination alternator/compressor bracket that receptacles the original alternator bracket. This new bracket will accept a new Sanden 508 compressor. these are the compressors used by Vintage air, Classic Auto Air and Resto mod air. This is a more subtle looking bracket than a full billet aluminum drive kit.

    I have also devised a way to convert the heater control panel from a 69-72 skylark to work with/control the Vintage air units.


    Hello everyone I am new to the community. However not new to all things automotive. I currently working on a project where I am converting a 72 Buick A/C car to a Vintage Air unit for it's compact size, function and ease of service. What I am looking for is a passenger side compressor/alternator mount. I have seen one built here on the site and was hoping to get some help creating another or possibly purchasing one or two.

    I am also looking for a '72 heater car control panel completed with sliders and fan control switch. These seem to be pretty elusive I have found a hand full of air conditioning controllers but have only seen 1 heater controller, but it was only a face plate.

    Thanks in advance
    -LonghornSS
    Last edited by LonghornSS; 09-21-2015 at 07:37 AM.

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornSS View Post
    Hello everyone I am new to the community. However not new to all things automotive. I currently working on a project where I am converting a 72 Buick A/C car to a Vintage Air unit for it's compact size, function and ease of service. What I am looking for is a passenger side compressor/alternator mount. I have seen one built here on the site and was hoping to get some help creating another or possibly purchasing one or two.

    I am also looking for a '72 heater car control panel completed with sliders and fan control switch. These seem to be pretty elusive I have found a hand full of air conditioning controllers but have only seen 1 heater controller, but it was only a faceplate.

    Thanks in advance
    -LonghornSS
    I'd certainly be interested in one as well. One day I want to add a Vintage Air System to my GS and the compressor bracket seems to be the biggest PITA!
    Craig
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    Best 60' - 1.583 60' on slicks w/ 3.55 rear

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Quote Originally Posted by mltdwn12 View Post
    I'd certainly be interested in one as well. One day I want to add a Vintage Air System to my GS and the compressor bracket seems to be the biggest PITA!
    Ditto that. I have a non-AC car but bought some brackets at the GS Nationals a few years back. I have both a steel and aluminum lower AC/alternator bracket. I may have a spare heater only control module in the attic. It won't be nice but it will have the lever and fan switch. What do you need it for? Trying to make the existing controls work the new AC?

    I'm very interested and will follow this, even help where I can.

    Good luck and take lots of pics if this is something you take on.
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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Yes I will be trying to modify the original heater to control the new VA unit. The hardest part of this will be getting the compressor brackets to work. I know there as been at least one on here that has been modified to work on the passenger side. Any help figuring out the bracket would be helpful.

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornSS View Post
    Yes I will be trying to modify the original heater to control the new VA unit. The hardest part of this will be getting the compressor brackets to work. I know there as been at least one on here that has been modified to work on the passenger side. Any help figuring out the bracket would be helpful.
    My original plan is to use a Pro-6-Ten (link) on factory brackets. However, a clean bracket that isn't as intrusive to the engine bay would be much better.

    I have no welding or fabricating skills so I'm interested in buying one that works with the short water pump if anyone manages to figure out a good arrangement.
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    1971 GS 350 (8/16/14) 4 speed, 91k stock, converted to front discs and tubular uppers

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Would a 455 bracket be the same as a 350 bracket? If so, perhaps we can approach some welder fabricator about doing a group buy?
    Chris Gullo
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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Longhorn - do you have a part number for the control you are looking for? I have a couple of complete dash sets and I believe one of them is from a 72. Regards - Byron -
    If you were to ask me if I'd ever had the bad luck to miss my daily coctail, I'd have to say that I doubt it, Where certain things are concerned, I plan ahead. Author; Luis Bunuel

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Quote Originally Posted by V8Sky View Post
    Would a 455 bracket be the same as a 350 bracket? If so, perhaps we can approach some welder fabricator about doing a group buy?
    If they aren't identical they are at least largely interchangeable. I've used them between motors, even V6 stuff works on a 455 with very little effort. I had a 75 Skylark (X-body) with a V6 that died and put a 455 in it and all I had to do was the lengthen the top alternator arm to make it all work. That was the R4 compressor but still, it shows the geometry isn't that hard to fix.
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    1971 GS 350 (8/16/14) 4 speed, 91k stock, converted to front discs and tubular uppers

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Guys,
    Mark Reeves @ Then & Now Restoration is a Vintage Air dealer and fab'd up an AC bracket for the Sanden compressor on my Estate Wagon. Alternator does get moved to the drivers side but it really is no issue. Great thing about it is that NOTHING has to come off the front of the motor to get to the timing cover/water pump. Slick setup.
    Brad Conley. 70 GSX Prototype, 71 Black GSX, 87 GNX Prototype, 75 Skyhawk, 2 86 GN's, 72 Centurion Convert and a host of other Buicks!

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Quote Originally Posted by Brad Conley View Post
    Guys,
    Mark Reeves @ Then & Now Restoration is a Vintage Air dealer and fab'd up an AC bracket for the Sanden compressor on my Estate Wagon. Alternator does get moved to the drivers side but it really is no issue. Great thing about it is that NOTHING has to come off the front of the motor to get to the timing cover/water pump. Slick setup.
    Can you post a pic and do they sell it as a kit? Main caveat is I don't want to have to change my power steering pump location.
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    1971 GS 350 (8/16/14) 4 speed, 91k stock, converted to front discs and tubular uppers

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Quote Originally Posted by knucklebusted View Post
    Can you post a pic and do they sell it as a kit? Main caveat is I don't want to have to change my power steering pump location.
    Power Steering is not bothered. Like I said, really cool thing is that you can remove front of engine without removing the accessories or brackets. Here are some pics...

    photo 1.jpgphoto 2.jpgphoto 3.jpg
    Brad Conley. 70 GSX Prototype, 71 Black GSX, 87 GNX Prototype, 75 Skyhawk, 2 86 GN's, 72 Centurion Convert and a host of other Buicks!

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Well thanks for all the replays guys I messages Jim W. and have decided to try and recreate the brackets the way he did on another project. I will be doing this twice I will first franken bracket one using a 72 Steel Air/Alternator bracket, then my plan is to totally recreate the combo bracket. using Flat plate and steel sleeves, and a water jet cutter. I will try and keep you updated with the progress.

    Also I am looking for one of these heater controls pictured below I need one with a working blower speed switch. I found this pic online, it is upside down and the wood grain has been removed. I have not been able to track one of these Heater controls down I have found several A/C controllers though.

    1970 Buick GS Non AC Control.JPG

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    Default 70-72 455 Skylark Vintage Air here we go.

    Well I am on my way.
    I just got in two heater car control panels. I have disassembled one switch and cleaned up all the contacts and the housing and it is back together, the switch now has good continuity between the contact points. I also figured out the pin out locations for the fan control. Next up is to get the Cable converters to operate through their full range. That shouldn't be too difficult.
    I also have a '72 steel alternator/Compressor bracket on its way, when I get that in I should be able to recreate that bracket to accept a Sanden 508 compressor.
    wish me luck.

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    Default Re: 70-72 455 Skylark Vintage Air here we go.

    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornSS View Post
    Well I am on my way.
    I just got in two heater car control panels. I have disassembled one switch and cleaned up all the contacts and the housing and it is back together, the switch now has good continuity between the contact points. I also figured out the pin out locations for the fan control. Next up is to get the Cable converters to operate through their full range. That shouldn't be too difficult.
    I also have a '72 steel alternator/Compressor bracket on its way, when I get that in I should be able to recreate that bracket to accept a Sanden 508 compressor.
    wish me luck.
    Wishing you luck!
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    1971 GS 350 (8/16/14) 4 speed, 91k stock, converted to front discs and tubular uppers

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Hey everyone I have been a little busy but I have been able to get around to drawing up the Sanden 508/Alternator combination bracket for the 455. I have attached a rendering and will have the parts cut soon.
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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornSS View Post
    Hey everyone I have been a little busy but I have been able to get around to drawing up the Sanden 508/Alternator combination bracket for the 455. I have attached a rendering and will have the parts cut soon.
    Looks good to me! I'll take one of those please!...

    Eric / Oregon

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Looks good to me! I'll take one of those please!...

    Eric / Oregon
    Eric Let me get the two projects done here and make sure they work the way I want them to. Then we can talk sale. We have a set of stamped steel pulley we want to try as well as the Billet Aluminum pulleys. once I know they are working I will get some pictures of them mounted and have a detailed list of what pulleys and belts I am using.

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Well I have got one set of brackets cut out and look like I have them pretty close there is just a little tweaking that needs to happen to make them a little better. Nothing major simple fixes that I will get right in the next set. Still have to work out the Pulley and belt configuration. I am using a Mock up compressor and alternator. I have lowered the compressor centerline than that of the stock compressor to give ample hood clearance, I have also clocked the compressor so that the A/C fitting will come out the side rather than the top. I have also made sure to keep the drain plug above the horizontal plane.
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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    That's looking good I'm sure I'd be one of many to buy one if you decide to make them for sale!
    Craig
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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Picture # 4 looks sweet! This is a much needed piece for a few of us who are doing the Vintage Air Conversion.
    I have the complete kit ready to go on my 69 Vert...minus the bracket of course!
    Thank you for working on this!

    Eric

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Hi Longhorn SS...
    Any progress on that cool bracket???

    Buick Eric/Oregon

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    I need one too. Do you take Paypal?

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    I would like one as well how much do you want
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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Quote Originally Posted by Sportwagon400 View Post
    I would like one as well how much do you want
    Put me next in line

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    Default Re: 455 A/C Sanden Compressor bracket

    Hey Everyone, I have been hard at work on loads of projects around the shop such as the Aluminum GS Hood Seal plates that Bizerre has posted for sale in the parts for sale section, and admittedly have not been paying much attention to his thread.

    If you guys are interested send me a PM. Just a heads up We found that overall the install was cleaner and easier when we used a Rear exit Compressor.
    I will get some new pictures and pricing soon as I will have to get another one cut and welded for Bizerre's 72 GS project.

    Just so that you all know I did in fact get the unit in this car operating properly with the factory heater controls. (Factory A/C controls are another story)
    I also have a set of water jet brackets that only requires you to drill two additional 1/4 holes in the Radiator core for the condenser and one 1/4 hole for the Aluminum hard line support clamp.
    (if you are doing the install in a 70-72)

    As you guys well know the Dash on the Driver side is Real tight so we made some modifications to the VA Defrost plenum to clear the factory gauges and created a air box for the air to pass through, under the Column. This was a non air car but had the fresh air vents in the outside of the dash so we were able to use the factory vents and just added two VA vents under the center of the dash.

    I for see the Factory A/C car going a little more smoothly as I should be able to retain 90% of the Factory air Ducting, we will still have to come up with a better system for the driver side defrost.

    I will try and post some pics tomorrow.

 

 
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