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    Default Re: Who wants a Hellcat?

    Guy is another example of "you can't buy brains" , but money can buy arrogance. And ignorance is free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeM View Post

    I reckon the state troopers will have some Hellcat Chargers coming out in Q1 2015. By 2017, imagine buying a good used state trooper hellcat Charger with police tailoring. Will be pretty awesome, you think?
    I can't imagine that happening - that's way too much power for most people, let alone officers responding to *anything* that requires lights/sirens and isn't on a straight road. If nothing else, they would have to become "Hellcat Qualified." You could pretty much expect that the used Charger police car would have had multiple body panels replaced, possible frame damage, and pee stains on the driver's seat...

    As much as I like the idea (and price) of a Hellcat, I think the Scat Pack is a more reasonable ride that I could enjoy driving and take to the track once in a while.

    Now all this being said, if Chris (cjp69) were to buy a Charger version, I'd want to be the guy who bought it from him... after the first time getting on it, he'd be in valet mode from that point forward. And I know I wouldn't have to worry about him drag racing it all the time. And it would be as shiny as the day it was new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 71GS455 View Post
    I can't imagine that happening - that's way too much power for most people, let alone officers responding to *anything* that requires lights/sirens and isn't on a straight road. If nothing else, they would have to become "Hellcat Qualified." You could pretty much expect that the used Charger police car would have had multiple body panels replaced, possible frame damage, and pee stains on the driver's seat...and smell like puke (from the drunks) and stale donuts
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    A friend has one. The Hellcat and the 13-14 "Trinity" GT500 have more grunt than even very wide Michelin MPSS summer tires can harness.Traction with factory tires on these vehicles is ridiculous and unsafe. You can break traction with the throttle close to the 100 mph mark. In order to compensate many owners have gone to 305-315 series Nitto drag radials.

    If you want stoplight to stoplight wins from a dig go with a GTR. Depending on the model its all wheel drive is taking it to 0-60 mph times of 2.7 to 2.9 seconds.

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    Just a thought but any one remember the reason for the death of the muscle car in the 70's? Insurance rates caused by bad drivers buying a hemi or LS 6 or GS stage 1 and crashing them. I had a friend in school who's dad bought a 66 chevy nova with the 375 horse 327 and it had 5 inch tires on it. No traction at all. a 428 CJ Mach one with 14X6" ? a Stage 1 14" There is nothing new in this. I saw a vid of a guy that bought a new Ferrari and let his kid drive it home.... totaled! There are way more high performance cars out there than drivers. Most of the people my age and older know someone that over estimated their ability and lost theor lives in a fast car. Is the hellcat over powered yes. Is the GT500 yeah but I still want one of each and add in a new Z06 and a Ford GT. Too much is never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by 71GS455 View Post
    Now all this being said, if Chris (cjp69) were to buy a Charger version, I'd want to be the guy who bought it from him... after the first time getting on it, he'd be in valet mode from that point forward. And I know I wouldn't have to worry about him drag racing it all the time. And it would be as shiny as the day it was new.

    I can't tell if that is supposed to be a compliment or not, doesn't really sound like one, lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 71GS455 View Post

    Now all this being said, if Chris (cjp69) were to buy a Charger version, I'd want to be the guy who bought it from him... after the first time getting on it, he'd be in valet mode from that point forward. And I know I wouldn't have to worry about him drag racing it all the time. And it would be as shiny as the day it was new.
    Quote Originally Posted by cjp69 View Post
    I can't tell if that is supposed to be a compliment or not, doesn't really sound like one, lol!
    Im guessing hes never ridden with you in your 69 Chris lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe65SkylarkGS View Post
    What buick is that Ken?!?!!???!!!

    That is one bad Buick!!!!!
    Oh it might be fast and all, the look just does nothing for me. Just my personal preference.

    Edit: Plus it's got the wrong amount of doors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by staged70 View Post
    Just a thought but any one remember the reason for the death of the muscle car in the 70's? Insurance rates caused by bad drivers buying a hemi or LS 6 or GS stage 1 and crashing them. I had a friend in school who's dad bought a 66 chevy nova with the 375 horse 327 and it had 5 inch tires on it. No traction at all. a 428 CJ Mach one with 14X6" ? a Stage 1 14" There is nothing new in this. I saw a vid of a guy that bought a new Ferrari and let his kid drive it home.... totaled! There are way more high performance cars out there than drivers. Most of the people my age and older know someone that over estimated their ability and lost theor lives in a fast car. Is the hellcat over powered yes. Is the GT500 yeah but I still want one of each and add in a new Z06 and a Ford GT. Too much is never enough
    I have owned a Zo6 (427). Based on a lot personal experience, it is not nearly as wild as the 13-14 Trinity GT 500. You will swear this car is out to kill you. A Trinity has has a better power to weight ratio than even a Hellcat.

    Having said that I would love to own a Hellcat. The paddle shifting trans is the stuff.

    One observation from most Hellcat owners is the paint is generally very bad-- meaning a lot of flaws and a lot of trash in it. As demand goes away Dodge will not be able to get away with this. Right now, if you do not want it because of paint issues, they give these to the next customer on the list.
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    I have a friend that ordered one. Black inside and out with the manual transmission. It should be here in a couple of weeks. He has the first year RT, Audi A6, Benz SL500, Range Rover and this fall he bought a 87 GN. The news is when I told him I can wait for a ride he said hell you can drive it
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    Quote Originally Posted by red67wildcat View Post
    Im guessing hes never ridden with you in your 69 Chris lol
    True, but I do know what the motor is capable of...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjp69 View Post
    I can't tell if that is supposed to be a compliment or not, doesn't really sound like one, lol!
    I guess that's up to you, but it means that you get cars that can go that you keep in a condition that they're always ready to show.
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    Driving a car like that on the street is a handful. My CTS-V is close to 600hp and I have Michelin Pilot Super Sports on it which are the best summer tires around and you still have to be careful. It was a train wreck waiting to happen on stock type tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 71GS455 View Post
    I guess that's up to you, but it means that you get cars that can go that you keep in a condition that they're always ready to show.
    I took it as you called him a "Nancy".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxus View Post
    The car has too much power. Yes there is such a thing. It's one thing for a professional racer to drive something like that on a track. It's another for some guy to plop down his money and drive off the lot. You have to know how to handle that kind of power. I've already read a story about some guy who totaled his hellcat on the day he took delivery.
    I was thinking something similar when I test drove the 2015 Mustang GT. For $30K a lot of young guys are going to get into trouble. It is a fantastic car though.

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    Z06 v Hellcat v GT500 Trinity


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    I noticed the Hellcat punched the throttle on a late two count to get a jump on the ZO6 the one time he was ahead for a brief moment.
    In this video it always looked like the ZO6 was pulling out ahead on the kitty cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    I noticed the Hellcat punched the throttle on a late two count to get a jump on the ZO6 the one time he was ahead for a brief moment.
    In this video it always looked like the ZO6 was pulling out ahead on the kitty cat.

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    Lol, the video was made by "bad bowtie", did you expect the Mustang or Hellcat to win? :>) Plus, the Hellcat was probably had the $20k price difference in the backseat (Corvette guys don't know what a backseat is) so it was weighted down.
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    No Hellcat, but will be ordering a Scat Pack Shaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gs66 View Post
    No Hellcat, but will be ordering a Scat Pack Shaker.
    I have a 2015 Scat Pack. It's a lot of car for the money. I think the Hellcat is awesome, but it's more power than I would ever need on the street and the hype has convinced almost every dealer that has one that they are worth 10-15k over MSRP. I might get one someday, but I'm pretty happy with the 485 horsepower Scat Pack which can be bought for a little under invoice at a decent dealership.

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    I read they have 9000 orders for Hellcats but have delivered only 2000.
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    Here is the big "Dealer" issue with acquiring a Hellcat:

    https://autos.yahoo.com/news/dodge-b...203022842.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by flynbuick View Post
    I read they have 9000 orders for Hellcats but have delivered only 2000.
    And every single one of them just got recalled

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