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  1. #26
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    As of tonight front end is put together, All stainless steel fuel lines, brake lines and hoses, and transmission lines are installed.
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  2. #27
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    Dean
    It appears your car still sports it's original paint.

    I hope you are leaving body alone to preserve original paint?
    Richard Johns

    Owner/Operator Pure Stock Auto Restorations Inc
    www.purestockauto.com


    70 GS Stage 1 Convertible Auto 3:64 12.71@109.15 1.92 60 ft PSMCDR 2009
    70 GSX Stage 1 M21 4 speed 3.64 Original Paint # 67 of 678
    70 GSX Stage 1 Auto 3:64 # 603 of 678 12.44@109.73 GS Nats 2012, 12.71@110.64 PSMCDR 2011
    70 GS 455 M21 4 speed 3:42 Bench Seat
    87 GN Astroroof
    70 GTO Judge Ram Air III M21 4 speed 3.90
    69 GTO Judge Ram Air IV M21 4 speed 3.90

  3. #28
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    Rich that is a question I struggle with everyday. There are parts of the car that have been repainted and paint is faded in many spots.

  4. #29
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    Dean
    Post some good overall pics of the paint on your car for review.
    Richard Johns

    Owner/Operator Pure Stock Auto Restorations Inc
    www.purestockauto.com


    70 GS Stage 1 Convertible Auto 3:64 12.71@109.15 1.92 60 ft PSMCDR 2009
    70 GSX Stage 1 M21 4 speed 3.64 Original Paint # 67 of 678
    70 GSX Stage 1 Auto 3:64 # 603 of 678 12.44@109.73 GS Nats 2012, 12.71@110.64 PSMCDR 2011
    70 GS 455 M21 4 speed 3:42 Bench Seat
    87 GN Astroroof
    70 GTO Judge Ram Air III M21 4 speed 3.90
    69 GTO Judge Ram Air IV M21 4 speed 3.90

  5. #30
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    As requested, here are a few pictures Richard. Odometer shows 60991 original miles. There is not a lot of rust on this Buick. The only spots I know of rust is passenger lower front fender, drivers side of lower rear widow, and trunk floor is rusted. Couldn't get much for pics on drivers side as other car is in the way.
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  6. #31
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    That would so awesome to let like it is...
    Pat Harmon
    1970 QQ GSX back half car
    1970 462 Skylark

  7. #32
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    Quote Originally Posted by bignastyGS View Post
    That would so awesome to let like it is...
    X2...I kinda like the aged paint too.
    Jason Cook
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    "Expert in obsolete technology"

    1968 Riviera GS- some assembly required
    1969 Riviera GS- my first car
    1969 GS-350
    1970 Stage 1 4 speed Aquamist
    1970 GS-455 Bamboo Cream beater
    1971 GS 455 11.93@113.36
    1972 GS-350
    1970 Stellar Industries vintage go kart

    Deo duce, ferro comitante

  8. #33
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    Cool Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    My thought is with everything you have/are doing it is nolonger a survivor...

    With all of that amazing work you have done it wouldn't be right to put a old worn out body back on...

    Do body work and put a amazing paint job on her...

    Lookin Great so far
    "Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway" John Wayne

    BCA # 45934 / Central New England Chapter, BCA / BPG #2313
    Buick GS Club of America # 2943 / Northeast GS/GN Club

    Now: 1970 Buick GSX Tribute Car, Stage 2 455, SP TB 400, 3.42 Positraction
    Before:
    1968 Buick GS California, Midnight Blue, 350 ST300, than a 1974 455 TB400
    1971 Buick GS, Lime Mist Green, 350 TB350
    1974 Buick Century Wagon, Dark Brown, 455 TB400
    2000 Buick Regal

  9. #34
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    Pat, so are you saying to leave it the way it is? Rust holes in fender, trunk, and all?

  10. #35
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    i think i would have left it as a survivor but since you have the frame redone i don't know what i would do now

  11. #36
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    My thoughts are to stop the rusting process and save this amazing car. And enjoy it for he rest of my life, In a sense it is still a survivor, just in pristine condition...

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    Cool Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    Sorry it's not a Survivor anylonger, you have done way to much to it to be a Survivor...

    Fix the body & put a killer paint job on her...

    Just my 2 cents, not trying to get you mad...
    "Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway" John Wayne

    BCA # 45934 / Central New England Chapter, BCA / BPG #2313
    Buick GS Club of America # 2943 / Northeast GS/GN Club

    Now: 1970 Buick GSX Tribute Car, Stage 2 455, SP TB 400, 3.42 Positraction
    Before:
    1968 Buick GS California, Midnight Blue, 350 ST300, than a 1974 455 TB400
    1971 Buick GS, Lime Mist Green, 350 TB350
    1974 Buick Century Wagon, Dark Brown, 455 TB400
    2000 Buick Regal

  13. #38
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    Its all good. Not mad or upset at all. Just wanting to preserve this car and stop the rusting process. I feel these are beautiful cars and should be preserved.

  14. #39
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    When I got this car it was in a lot of pieces, it was not in tac. Otherwise wound have considered leaving it that way.

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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    Sounds like you know the answer to my question already.. Yes,do the allotted necessary work and leave well alone.. i unfortunately,don't have the option to redo the paint etc,as there was too much cut away to do that without mega money.So, I am going to use the back halfed frame,and finish the tubbed out deal,throw some 15x14 Buick rally wheels and 33x18.5 tires on,and get the body straightened out adding new paint and gonna enjoy it..
    Pat Harmon
    1970 QQ GSX back half car
    1970 462 Skylark

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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    Dean
    Car looks great with original paint, and should be saved.

    I was showing my customer's concours 69 GTO Judge at MCACN show this year which was great, but what garnered all the attention were original survivor cars.

    This category is growing Big Time with many collectors only interested in original cars and willing to pay anything for them.

    Survivor cars are not perfect ,never will be, but are very unique and special vehicles.
    Last edited by Rich Johns; 12-14-2015 at 05:09 PM.
    Richard Johns

    Owner/Operator Pure Stock Auto Restorations Inc
    www.purestockauto.com


    70 GS Stage 1 Convertible Auto 3:64 12.71@109.15 1.92 60 ft PSMCDR 2009
    70 GSX Stage 1 M21 4 speed 3.64 Original Paint # 67 of 678
    70 GSX Stage 1 Auto 3:64 # 603 of 678 12.44@109.73 GS Nats 2012, 12.71@110.64 PSMCDR 2011
    70 GS 455 M21 4 speed 3:42 Bench Seat
    87 GN Astroroof
    70 GTO Judge Ram Air III M21 4 speed 3.90
    69 GTO Judge Ram Air IV M21 4 speed 3.90

  17. #42
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    I agree with Rich. I have seen way too many "perfect" restorations on cars over the years. 1st, I could never enjoy it as I would hate to drive it and when it got dirty,I would get annoyed. I had a black 86 GS that was a show car. Pain to keep clean and sat more than enjoyed. I have no time for over restored cars anyways. I will bet a limb that GM didn't build them that way the first time. Don't get me wrong,I like a nice clean,well done car,but to spend foolish money so every bolt,nut was painted and colored when it wasn't that way back in 1970 doesn't do much for me. Too many over restorations are around.
    Pat Harmon
    1970 QQ GSX back half car
    1970 462 Skylark

  18. Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    My vote from afar is to phosphate any rust holes, touch up paint areas you can to stop any cancer, and leave the patina on.

    There is always some day down the road to paint it. Original paint is only once...

    Looking good!
    MarkO
    "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."-Raoul Duke
    Street Sleeper~'70 Skylark Holiday Coupe
    Build-> http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.ph...ge-Find/page10
    N2O-> http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.ph...-Nitrous-facts
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  19. #44
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidC77 View Post
    My thought is with everything you have/are doing it is nolonger a survivor...

    With all of that amazing work you have done it wouldn't be right to put a old worn out body back on...

    Do body work and put a amazing paint job on her...

    Lookin Great so far
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidC77 View Post
    Sorry it's not a Survivor anylonger, you have done way to much to it to be a Survivor...

    Fix the body & put a killer paint job on her...

    Just my 2 cents, not trying to get you mad...
    This is my vote also.

    BTW Nice Job!

    ps. I would spray it in lacquer...unless there is a process out there now to get a b/c to look like lacquer?
    Last edited by Guy Parquette; 12-14-2015 at 10:29 AM.
    70 GSX clone race car 10.58@126
    70 stage 2 (real) KenneBell test car that Pop raced.
    70 Skylark 12,400 miles rust free
    70 stage 1 will be restored

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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    Thanks Guy.... I think you know a co-worker of mine - Bruce B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeansGSX View Post
    Thanks Guy.... I think you know a co-worker of mine - Bruce B.
    If its the same Bruce B... I just got off the phone with him. What line of work are you in?
    70 GSX clone race car 10.58@126
    70 stage 2 (real) KenneBell test car that Pop raced.
    70 Skylark 12,400 miles rust free
    70 stage 1 will be restored

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    Electrician for a power company.

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    Rear end apart and just received bearings. Rounded corners and recessed bolt holes on patch panels for Rad. support.
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    I think this survivor title should be reserved for those very few original cars in good shape too. If you know Bob Stemm he's got a 73 or 74 Stage 1SunCoupe its got 98percent original paint. that's the kind of car I would consider a survivor with touch up paint only I do understand leaving them original like GSX #7. I just couldn't have a super rare car with rust holes and a beat Interior.
    John & Terry Kemper
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    Default Re: Start of another rebuild - GSX

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Parquette View Post
    If its the same Bruce B... I just got off the phone with him. What line of work are you in?
    Quote Originally Posted by DeansGSX View Post
    Electrician for a power company.
    Ah...I was thinking of a different Bruce.

    I raced with Bruce and family....Different brand, and a competitor, but we all got along very well and became friends.
    Tell him hi!
    70 GSX clone race car 10.58@126
    70 stage 2 (real) KenneBell test car that Pop raced.
    70 Skylark 12,400 miles rust free
    70 stage 1 will be restored

 

 
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