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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sunset View Post
    Jim, Thanks for all your help on this and for the great deal on the converter. I haven't bolted it to the SFI flexplate yet. I will PM you with questions I have.





    X3... whats a thread sticky do bundle all the info into one thread ?
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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by bhambulldog View Post
    On a normal thread,
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    Thanks James,
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Todays project: Fabricate mount extensions
    Got the cross member finished on the 4L80e.
    Came out clean.

    IMG_1449.jpgIMG_1444.jpgIMG_1445.jpgIMG_1446.jpgIMG_1447.jpgIMG_1448.jpgIMG_1450.jpg

    I just realized this thread is now a sticky. I will post my progress if it can help others with their projects. very cool.
    Last edited by Mr. Sunset; 01-09-2016 at 02:01 PM.
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Nice job here Joe.
    The overdrive trans is a nice addition to a 67 Skylark.
    Now that you are a celebrity.
    69Skylark 500cu in. 200r4/355 12bolt
    72LeSabre 455/200r4/342 Cruiser
    70GS455 Convertible Survivor!! 464/200r4
    BPG#1504
    Thanks
    Nick White

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Heres the NEW USshift Trans control system. I don't know that I need 4 programs. the Quick1 holds 2 for 170 bucks less.
    http://www.usshift.com/usq4.shtml quick4-main-large.jpg
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sunset View Post
    Heres the NEW USshift Trans control system. I don't know that I need 4 programs. the Quick1 holds 2 for 170 bucks less.
    http://www.usshift.com/usq4.shtml quick4-main-large.jpg
    I know I am being critical and admittedly not an expert, but why does any controller need more than one program for shifting. Why not make it shift as if it were a full analog system like the trusty THM400? I guess it could store a comprehensive program that covers all of this.

    Its pricing seems reasonable with all that it provides.
    <profoundly ambiguous quote here>
    http://www.classyhomestorage.com/Home.html
    -Chad

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    1987 Grand National

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by black70buick View Post
    I know I am being critical and admittedly not an expert, but why does any controller need more than one program for shifting. Why not make it shift as if it were a full analog system like the trusty THM400? I guess it could store a comprehensive program that covers all of this.

    Its pricing seems reasonable with all that it provides.
    My thought was a mild program for standard street use and a more aggressive program for WOT street/strip use. I'm not sure why anyone would need four. I like the adjustable shift points. also able to switch programs on the fly. go into manual shift as well. this company has the TPS and the harness. my big question is can I link the tcm to my programmable ignition system. to omit the rpm sensor. hahaha, I have to laugh. I almost sound like I know what i'm talking about.
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sunset View Post
    My thought was a mild program for standard street use and a more aggressive program for WOT street/strip use. I'm not sure why anyone would need four. I like the adjustable shift points. also able to switch programs on the fly. go into manual shift as well.
    Thats kinda what I am picking at. Adjusting line pressure on the fly should be easy to shift like the original '70 455 Stage 1 at WOT. The remaining logic should be exactly like to mimic the trusty THM400 setup.



    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sunset View Post
    my big question is can I link the tcm to my programmable ignition system. to omit the rpm sensor. hahaha, I have to laugh. I almost sound like I know what i'm talking about.
    Depends on ignition system design and some good 'ol fashion know how. It can be done so that your engine compartment isn't wrapped up in wires and sensors.
    <profoundly ambiguous quote here>
    http://www.classyhomestorage.com/Home.html
    -Chad

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    1987 Grand National

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Attaching the torque converter to the SFI flexplate. sometimes the math is just dead on.
    I have 5/16" gap between the converter and the plate. Jim at TSP advised the TSP converter needs to be pulled out 3/16" from the trans.
    This leaves 1/8" gap and I need to clear the weight on the flexplate.
    the adapter plate is where the extra 1/8" is coming from and with the spacers supplied with the adapter plate
    It all zeros out and the converter clears the weight on the flexplate.
    Sometimes things have a way of working themselves out.
    Thanks for the Info Jim
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sunset View Post
    Attaching the torque converter to the SFI flexplate. sometimes the math is just dead on.
    I have 5/16" gap between the converter and the plate. Jim at TSP advised the TSP converter needs to be pulled out 3/16" from the trans.
    This leaves 1/8" gap and I need to clear the weight on the flexplate.
    the adapter plate is where the extra 1/8" is coming from and with the spacers supplied with the adapter plate
    It all zeros out and the converter clears the weight on the flexplate.
    Sometimes things have a way of working themselves out.
    Thanks for the Info Jim
    Here is the photo of the converter clearing the weight on the SFI flexplate
    IMG_1485.jpg
    Last edited by Mr. Sunset; 01-09-2016 at 02:02 PM.
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    I'm still working on this, here's the update...
    I received the -6an socketless fittings for the cooler and the Aeroquip socketless hose today for the trans lines. Larry's thread helped alot with these parts.
    http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?299758-Transmission-Cooler-Recommendation
    I'm going to leave the line ends open/caped until I figure out what trans cooler will fit and where.
    this box of parts was confiscated by my wife and being wrapped and stored under the x-mas tree.

    I did forget to buy 1" heat shield for the line area that run over the headers. new summit list started.

    I ordered the shiftworks kit for the 4L80e today.

    Use your factory-installed automatic floor shifter with a newer 3-speed (TH350, TH400) or 4-speed (TH700-R-4, TH200-4R or 4L60) Transmission. The conversion includes a new laser cut and hardened detent for proper stops and gear selection, a new matching transmission shift lever, cable pan bracket, new cable, all necessary hardware, and instructions. This conversion eliminates the rod linkage.
    http://www.shiftworks.com/buick.htm
    I hope this all works out...
    pics after christmas.
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    I finally got back into the garage today.
    I installed the shiftworks conversion kit at the trans end. it's a nice set up.
    even comes with a repop shift id glass with the OD printed.
    Also installed the fittings for -6AN trans lines and installed the Aeroquip socketless fittings and hose.
    I'm going to need 90 degree fittings on this. wasn't thinking about the body going on.
    Moving forward.


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    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sunset View Post
    I finally got back into the garage today.

    Also installed the fittings for -6AN trans lines and installed the Aeroquip socketless fittings and hose.
    I'm going to need 90 degree fittings on this. wasn't thinking about the body going on.
    Moving forward.


    IMG_1614.jpg
    You have the older style 4L80, I would be surprised that you need a 90 angle to make up space. The line location is very close to the TH400. For mine, the newer style 4L80, I did need to make a 90 fitting for the rear cooling line. Thankfully no trans tunnel modification were needed in my Riviera. Are you sure you need 90s?
    <profoundly ambiguous quote here>
    http://www.classyhomestorage.com/Home.html
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    1987 Grand National

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by black70buick View Post
    You have the older style 4L80, I would be surprised that you need a 90 angle to make up space. The line location is very close to the TH400. For mine, the newer style 4L80, I did need to make a 90 fitting for the rear cooling line. Thankfully no trans tunnel modification were needed in my Riviera. Are you sure you need 90s?
    Hi Chad,
    No, not 100 percent sure on the 90's. Looking at it as is, A 90 degree bend out of the trans. At a 45 degree angle down and back would sweep the lines cleaner around. I would hate to have the body coming down and need the fittings . precaution???
    Last edited by Mr. Sunset; 01-01-2016 at 12:03 PM.
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sunset View Post
    Hi Chad,
    No, not 100 percent sure on the 90's. Looking at it as is, A 90 degree bend out of the trans at a 45 degree angle down and back would sweep the lines cleaner around. I would hate to have the body coming down and need the fittings . precaution???
    Ah. 45s might be good. Also, if you open to ideas you could secure the hoses to body underneath the AC box (assuming you have AC). This would put the lines in an arc around that collector as well as further restrict movement where the hoses pass through the frame.
    <profoundly ambiguous quote here>
    http://www.classyhomestorage.com/Home.html
    -Chad

    Garage:
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    1987 Grand National

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by black70buick View Post
    Ah. 45s might be good. Also, if you open to ideas you could secure the hoses to body underneath the AC box (assuming you have AC). This would put the lines in an arc around that collector as well as further restrict movement where the hoses pass through the frame.
    Agreed, good plan. thanks again for the input. I'm having fun with this.
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    What did you have to do to the cross member to fit the Trans? I'm getting things ready for a 4l60e into my 68 GS
    1968 Buick GS400
    Blueprint Roller SBC 383 430HP 460TQ
    Hydraulic roller camshaft .528" Intake lift .536" Exhaust lift 230 Intake duration @ .050" 240 Exhaust duration @ .050" 112 lobe separation. Holley 750 4160 - TH350

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by 72buicklark View Post
    What did you have to do to the cross member to fit the Trans? I'm getting things ready for a 4l60e into my 68 GS
    post #28, had to move the mounts back. I added extensions to the factory mounts. My frame is a 67GS so I have the boxed frame. I don't know what the 68 frame is like but the t400 rubber trans mount, crossmember and yoke all worked for me.
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    I swapped out the straight fittings for the 45 degree socketless aeroquip fittings. much cleaner flow of the lines into the frame.
    I also installed the fitted 2000 degree covers to protect them from the collectors.
    Almost ready for the body to go on.


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    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Been working on the Shiftworks conversion shifter. Not as easy as It may seem but not impossible.
    The shift key for there shifter kit is backwards for the 67 gs400. granted Shiftworks says it's for 65/66 skylark and they look very similar.
    I was told it would work. customer service wasn't much help.
    Shiftworks does not make a kit for the 67 so... you'll see it here first.
    I will need to cut and weld their key plate to the existing shifter. other then that it's still a good kit.
    I also completely restored the center console and I couldn't be happier.
    I will post pics after I get it done. (Tonight I hope) I have a plan
    Last edited by Mr. Sunset; 04-22-2016 at 11:31 AM.
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    IMG_1743.jpg Notice something wrong ? Shift lever pulled back and in Park position
    IMG_1745.jpgThis was my first cut but ended up taking off more
    IMG_1747.jpg a couples of welds and were good
    IMG_1748.jpg Looks almost factory but now it's for a 4L80e
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    IMG_1750.jpg The selector looks factory but with OD
    IMG_1751.jpgThis is the complete console I restored down to the orange paint on the tech needle.
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Looking good! Let me know if you still need another engine hoist (and another pair of hands, if I can manage) to help with putting the body back on.

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    Default Re: Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by SteeveeDee View Post
    Looking good! Let me know if you still need another engine hoist (and another pair of hands, if I can manage) to help with putting the body back on.
    Thanks Steve, I'm real close. I have some body work yet to do. your on my call list.
    $$$* 1967 Buick GS 400 *$$$

    Joe M.

    1967 GS 400 sport coupe, frame off restomod BBB
    1967 Skylark sport coupe 340 peg leg. (has been laid to rest)
    1987 K5 Blazer Silverado 4x4,
    new 4 bolt main 350 , 700r4. restored for hunting only
    1999 GMC Sierra, 6.0 The work truck
    2015 Camaro 2SS, black on black. 426hp stock

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    Default Got jiggy with it. 4L80E behind 455 BBB

    The shifter looks excellent. What are you doing about your speedometer? I read there are mechanical
    and electrical adapters. Bruce Roe

 

 
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