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08-04-2009, 03:09 PM
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Procharger project progress
I am finally making progress again and hope to at least have the procharger turning over by next Monday. I think I will just wire the bypass open while I sort things out.
The fuel system is done. I used a Sx Performance pump, -8 to a RobbMc bypass regulator, -10 back to the tank. The key to the system is the check valve right at the tank since the fuel pump could not be mounted below the tank. It works so well that the system holds 2 psi pressure when it is off.
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08-04-2009, 03:14 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Here is the sump tank and check valve. The second picture shows the pump
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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08-04-2009, 03:18 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
RobbMc regulatror. I run just one -8 line to the carb because the log is -8. I think this is just a neater system than running 2 -6 lines.
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08-04-2009, 03:18 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
More tomorrow as I pull the motor to install the Postons pan.
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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08-04-2009, 03:29 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
ChaChing!
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08-10-2009, 08:59 AM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Got pictures of the intercooler. Only slightly smaller than the radiator!
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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#7
08-10-2009, 09:45 AM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Nice Work! Keep the pics coming
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#8
08-16-2009, 11:16 AM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Motor is coming back out due to head gasket not wanting to be part of this project. But I do have a few more pictures to prove that I am trying!
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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#9
08-16-2009, 11:18 AM
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Re: Procharger project progress
The cool custom carb hat is one that Mark made me. It is a stuggle to get all this stuff to fit under a stock hood line.
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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08-16-2009, 04:47 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Have you spoken to Bobb at Finishline? Home of the procharged Buicks
 
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#11
08-16-2009, 09:18 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Talked to him last week. He is getting my head gaskets for me. Really enjoyed talking to him.
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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#12
08-17-2009, 09:02 AM
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Re: Procharger project progress
I would not use that carb hat. So much research has gone into carb hats and how they can affect the tune, or possibly even keep you from ever getting your tune right......
I'd recommend the EV hat, or the CSU hat. They both have been proven.
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08-17-2009, 06:36 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
That hat is the only thing that will fit under the hood. Not going to run a lot of boost. I have less than 3" of clearance.
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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#14
09-28-2009, 08:59 AM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Took a few steps forward again. Motor is back in with the rebuilt heads. Now running stiffer valve springs and Cometic gaskets. Stupid details I did not deal with.. cannot see timing marks!
 So I have to make up a new pointer for the right side of the motor. Blower belts and tensioner seem to work just fine. Allignment and tension were good at 2000 rpms. Now to get the timing right and get the bypass valve setup. Here are a few new pictures. This is the power steering pump setup.
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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09-28-2009, 09:03 AM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Two pictures of the blower beeing setup. I made the bracket adjustable. Much easier to get the belt on.
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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09-28-2009, 09:06 AM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Here is the oil supply with the accumulator. I was worried about bleed off of pressure by the blower but does not seem to be a problem.
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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09-28-2009, 09:11 AM
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Re: Procharger project progress
A few pictures to show alignment. Close to finished. Also picture of the new battery. Need the extra room to run the intercooler. Cranks the motor over fine. Does not have as much reserve as a normal battery.
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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09-28-2009, 05:13 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
How'd you progress on welding the sump to the bottom of the tank- I was thinking about buying a new tank to avoid the "Boom!" factor!! And how did you flatten out the ribs?
Robert
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09-28-2009, 05:23 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Excellent progress!!!!!!!!!!!!
Devon
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09-28-2009, 07:08 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Thanks Devon, seems like walking through a swamp.
Robert, Not that big a deal, empty the tank then rinse it with soap and water a few times. Then you can cut out the section for the sump and dry the tank out. Do all your welding. I like to put in a can of Marvel and use a few cans or fuel additive in the first tank.
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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10-02-2009, 07:04 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
mmmmmmmm..... Horsepower
 Lookin really clean too!
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10-04-2009, 04:06 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Finally blowing some air!! Have the intercooler back in and the plumbing to the cooler done. Ran it around the block and all of the belts seem to running true. It is amazing what the intercooler does. Put you hand on the pipes coming out of the blower and it is HOT. Grab the outlet side pipes and its like they are refrigerated.
Things left to do. Finish plumbing to the carb, set up the boost/vacuum lines for the regulator and the boost retard. Plumb the bypass back to the intake side of the blower. Light at the end of the tunnel..... hope it's not a train!
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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10-04-2009, 07:55 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Is that still a Buick power steering pump?
Did you change pulleys? -Bob C.
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10-04-2009, 09:04 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
Not a Buick pump, it is a Sweet pump from a circle track car. I am using stock pulleys and had an adaptro made to use the blower pulley from an LT1 procharger setup. I worked really hard to get the blower low and have a short belt. The belt is only 55 inches.
I am sure you could adapt a pump from an LT1 Camaro and not have to use AN lines. You would have to get a belt pulley for it. I may try to get a smaller pulley for the power steering pump so it works a little better at low rpms.
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Doug Gorton Gravity, it's only a theory. Trying is the first step towards failure -Homer Simpson Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail us now. -Elwood Blues GSX clone- May 2002 Sept 2008 12.42 @ 109MPH 1973 Ski Nautique 351w 87 GN- August 2005
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10-04-2009, 10:12 PM
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Re: Procharger project progress
looking good Doug
cody
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