Saw almost zero 350's @ the Nationals. We gotta change that & I know some guys besides myself that are working to do so. I have 2 350 GS's - One is an orig. 4-sp. car & the other an auto. Last one that I raced was a 4-sp. I've wondered the same with respect to the v6 vs. 350. Obviously all the v6 are turbos - Forced induction may be what the 350 needs to be really quick. I want to see what a NA streetable stock appearing one can do - It's my own thing. A lot of the little things I did on my last 350 build were tips gleaned from the v6's. I'll be over to park in your driveway w/it when it's done, lol.
I know very little about drag racing but I would guess the V6 cars are all much lighter (Regals?) than our larger A-bodies? That and boost?
Curious here, too. Happy to learn anything I can. The kid I was in the '80's reading everything I could get my hands on said "do the crank scraper", but that was on my '67 430, where the pan rail was really close to the crank centerline. So, I found piece of galvanized sheet metal (don't ask me to remember the gauge, probably thicker than it needed to be) and started a trial fit on my shortblock. Not difficult to do with saws and a rotary grinder. The point was, get the scraper to be as close as possible to the bottom reciprocating assembly without touching anything, plus a little more for safe keeping. Did it Help? Hell, I don't know, but it was fun. Did the same on a windage tray. Center sump mind you, trying everything to keep the pickup covered! As far as sealing, no prob. One can get creative with sectioning gaskets and putting things together with minimal RTV. Devon
Not a huge weight advantage IIRC between an '86 GN & a '70-2 Skylark but the boost (& intercooler) yes!
There really isnt a huge difference in weight between the A and G bodies, maybe a couple hundred pounds.
My plan is to weld a few tabs onto the block girdle to hold the scraper and it would be thin stainless steel with Teflon for the scraping surfaces.
Waaa waaaaa waaaaaaaa! Look who's crying now...... Run your mouth, not your car & state, I have nothing to prove...... Sounds like crying to me.
I agree with Devon........ and that's what I was trying to convey in my response from years ago. The crank scraper on a 350 is so far from the center line of the crank, I really wonder how effective it will be? I'd have to lay it out in CAD to have a good look that the geometry...........
Thinking about it a little, I would think that the scraper should be on the same plane as the pan rail until it clears the casting, then it should be angled toward the crank center line. This would be a much more effective scraper.
Last time I will state this, but appears Fox's Den can't read. Track is not Open..... Maybe where you live it is, but as I have stated in the past, the track here, is closed due to covid, may open up in the fall, maybe not. Maybe I'll load up the trailer & hit the track in WA state? Oh, that's a huge NO, the Border is closed, mostly like open for Fox's Den, just no body else in North America. Mister I have nothing to prove..... Seems like you need to take your own advice & find something to do. Must have hit a nerve eh??? Look who's calling people names NOW........
cry me a river you started this not me I made a comment and you didn't like it. and this is the reason why you said anything to me in the first place you just sticking up for your buddy up north I get that but he has been here since 2004 no turbo motor. since then I put in a trans and nitrous and ran the living piss out of it. I get on here and I give comments, support or show you how to put a part on or a process on which to fix a carb or whatever it is on here YOU on the other hand like to come on here and bash me, I don't care do what you will. I had already resolved the issue with Dano way back. We good. what's your problem frustration ha ha, I saw the post of your car and I don't get on A**book so why don't you just put it here. I still got ya beat. lol I would buy the crank scraper if I was you that way you might get that car into the 11's right now it is a 12's car and I can clean that up. The only reason you come after me is because I go after Sean about building his turbo motor and it just galls your a** don't it. you have been doing this at me for what 2 years now go back and check your posts buddy it is the only time you ever said anything to me so go take a hike!! and buy a crank scraper you might need it just look out your front window I am waving at ya. and for the record I know that Sean got married and had a child since 2004 so I know that this Always takes a front seat to the projects that you want to do in life so I do not fault him for that. Plus I had Pm'd him more than 2 years ago telling him I would Not bash his turbo car by not getting it ready I have been able to do a good job of that so far. When he gets it done it will be more than likely his son driving it. Because those kids come first that's it I am done got it?
Ahhhhhh, guys poor Grumpy doesn't like getting bashed, only he can bash people..... Makes sense. Shows your true character. Bahahaha!
Steve, excellent thought. So, attached to the SBB pan rail means a quick upturn on the scraper to get close to reciprocating stuff. In that case it'll take a sheet metal brake and a sheet metal gauge heavy enough to not be flopping around, and to survive fatigue. THAT might be a challenge. Uncharted territory. Devon
I thought those stroker motors could use it since from what I hear they can spin over 7 grand I know one that can't get past 6500 and will probably go poof. If I had a stroker motor it would be spinning to 7500 like I have heard before but... no guts no glory poof!
Gee wizz, I wish you guys would make up yer mind, scraper, no scraper A novice like me needs to know I have my sweet aluminum pan from Steve Reynolds here ready for install when I get my aluminum heads, and the summer is going fast
I just started on the main cap stabilizer for my stroker 300/346, I'll get some photos later. It's a stroker so will it go poof? Doubt it but you never know do ya? Got to thinking it could incorporate a scraper. The one I made for the 340 was 1/4" thick and intended only to anchor the ends of the cap studs to the pan rails and control cap walk. Looks like it's been working fine. The 300 of course has closer stud spacing due to the smaller main journals. This time I'm making it out of 1/8" stainless and if I clearance it just enough for the crank and rod throws it may do a reasonable job as a scraper. Just a thought at this point, as I haven't set the crank in the block yet. Jim
