69/70 Riviera electric pump replacement- Delco EP297 discontinued?

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  1. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Need a new pump on my 69 Riv. Its running out of fuel under WOT or heavy acceleration. When driving around town its fine.

    Anyway, went to the auto parts store and they cant get a Delco EP297. He indicated that it wasn't a good number. I did some digging and came up with a Delphi number of FE0065. Fits the same applications as the EP297 from what I can tell. Rock auto lists the pressure at 20.7 Kpa which converts to 3 psi. Flow rate is listed at 28.3. Is that cubic feet per second?

    Looks like a direct crossover for an EP297.
     
  2. Nailhead

    Nailhead Gold Level Contributor

    28.3 cubic feet per second would suck a swimming pool dry in minutes! Fuel pumps are rated in gallons per hour.

    John
     
  3. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Ha! That's funny. I meant cubic feet per minute. But in thinking about it, that doesn't make sense either! I guess 28 gallons in an hour seems logical. Im going to see if I can find one tomorrow.
     
  4. SportWagonGS

    SportWagonGS Moderator

    Jason, use one for a 1986 Ranger pickup(I can not remember the number but we have one at work and I can check it tomorrow), and the Strainer is an FS100, it's the setup I have in mine and it works great
     
  5. SportWagonGS

    SportWagonGS Moderator

    Jason, the pump I'm using is a Delphi FE0065 in conjunction with the FS100 strainer
     
  6. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    OK, so I found out why I thought my car needed a fuel pump!

    Turns out that the rubber line I used a few years ago to go from the pump to the sender pipe wasn't ethanol compatible. It had turned into the consistency of a wet noodle. Once that happened, it slipped off the fuel pump even though I had put a hose clamp on it. So the hose was barely attached. The pump was for the most part, pumping fuel into the tank. I honestly don't know how it even ran.

    The sender didn't look too good when I pulled it out. Some yo yo in its past must of used a screwdriver to try and pry the terminal block off the sender. And to make matters worse, the blue wire was hanging on by a few threads. Same yo yo must of tried checking for voltage by trying to pierce the insulation.

    So I remembered I had a spare sender in the "parts dept". I grabbed it and it looked puuurfect! Nice original sender that hadn't been screwed with. Terminal block was nice and it still had an AC pump mounted on it. Gee, I knew I saved this for a reason! So I mount the Ford Ranger pump anyway even though the fuel pump wanst the issue. Might as well just put a new one on right? I got the FS100 sock and it went together. Put it in and started the car- Worked like a charm.....all except for the fuel gauge! :Dou: The spare sender I had was no good! Note to self- check senders before installation.

    So I removed the new sender and carefully removed the terminal block so I could swap it in the original sender. Gotta love taking something apart that wasn't meant to be taken apart! I removed both terminal blocks and installed the good one on the good sender. Swapped in the new pump and replaced the original rubber supply line from 1969! I know was the original because it was stamped GAS on it (another piece of hose that felt like a wet noodle!

    So now I have a new pump and a gas gauge that works. Im going to replace the rubber fuel line going to the carb tomorrow. That piece of hose is 20 years old because I replaced it when I worked at Goodyear. I think its due!

    So my fuel pump saga is over. Another learning experience!
     
  7. SportWagonGS

    SportWagonGS Moderator

    my pump elbow went bad too after 1 tank of E10, car ran fine except at full throttle the carb would run out of gas, my fix wasn't pretty but it works well, 3/8 hard line bent to the right angle and 2 small sections of fuel proof fuel hose (I used fuel injection barrier line) and 4 hose clamps, also mase it a hair longer to put the pump a little lower and further back in the tank since the FS100 allows you to do this!

    Jason, I'm so glad I found the FS100, perfect part!
     

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