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70 GS455

Discussion in 'Wet behind the ears??' started by MLP, Jan 31, 2025.

  1. MLP

    MLP Member

    My first attempt a thread. Bear with me. I bought a 70 GS455 from original owner last year. No rust car, numbers match, auto, bench seat, green/green. Was driven daily until 20 years ago then in their garage until I purchased. Needs paint & upholstery. Motor starts and runs good, no smoke.
    I am torn between finding a hard core GS collector that wants a "one owner" starting place for restoration, or begin resto myself. Also, does anyone have a suggestion for a place to get the instrument panel freshened up?
    Thanks! Mike
     
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  2. Fred Hickey

    Fred Hickey Founders Club Member

    Welcome! Is "restoration" really necessary? Many would like to see a one owner car just preserved. send pics!
     
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  3. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    What do mean instrument cluster "freshened up"?

    You have a couple choices. I usually take the plastic I strument cluster out, strip it of all parts and wash it with mild soap and water

    Take the lenses out of the gauges and polish them up with mother's metal polish. Replace all the bulbs with new 194s. Maybe put a new set of woodgrain on the cluster. Then just put it all back together. You can take a chrome pen to some of the worn chrome areas. Polish up all the chrome knobs and escutcheons while your there. It'll make a world of difference

    They do make a new cluster for $349. But it might stick out like sore thumb on an otherwise original car
     
  4. Matt Knutson

    Matt Knutson Well-Known Member

    Would you post a few pictures of your car? Thanks.
     
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  5. MLP

    MLP Member

    Thank you for responses. Once the rain stops I'll pull it out an send photos. Certainly not a perfect car, but it is rust free and original. I'll look into what it takes to pull out instrument cluster.
     
  6. alain

    alain Well-Known Member

    :)If you are planing on selling the GS and it is all original
    I would not spend any time or money on it A collector will like it the way it is
    Just my.02 cents Canadien for what it is worth:)
    Alain 1970 platinum 442 4spd factory A/C
     
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  7. VET

    VET Navy Vet, Founders Club

    Question: Are you looking to keep your $$$ spending down or you find with spending a lot of money. I ask because I spent a lot of money doing upgrades to my 70 GS and it looks great.

    You have to repaint, I didn't because my car was a frame off restored in 2010. That's a ton of money to start.

    Instrument cluster: I have the early built 70 GS and it had the pointed lens cluster. It reflected sunlight and it difficult to see the gauges.
    I when with an aftermarket instrument cluster from Dakota that is digital. I love it, flat lens and everything is in pounds, oil pressure, water temp in degrees, battery in amps. You can get the gauges to light up in different colors. Mine light up in blue to match the color of my car.

    Interior: Are you going to have to replace your interior?
    I did, I bought mine from ledgendary. Came out fantastic.
    Any engine work?

    I had lot of over heating issues with my 455 (it's bored to 462).
    Had to replace all coolant related parts to include an aluminum radiator.

    Do you need to rebuild your QJet carb?
    I had to buy a new carb, my QJet was not repairable.

    Check your steering box.
    Mine had play in it, worn out. Just bought a rebuilt one from one of the members on our forum, also bought a new rag joint.

    Rims rust free?
    I had some minor rust but found a suggestion to use #0000 steel wool with Dawn soap to clean the rust off. Worked great.

    Exhaust in good condition?
    I only had to replace the exhaust pipes that run over the rear wheel wells.

    Battery in good shape?
    I had to replace my battery.

    Check your balancer.
    I found mine to be damaged and had to replace it.

    Any oil leaks?
    I had to replace my front crank seal. Was the original rope seal.
    Replaced it with a neoprene rubble seal and also replaced the front trimming chain cover and water pump. I bought from TA Performance. A very good Buick aftermarket company. Same place I bought my balancer from.

    My tires are in good condition, so no replacement.

    Interior replacement also included rear deck replacement along with new speakers and aftermarket radio with Bluetooth.

    You can clearly see it doesn't take long to get very expensive.

    If you can do most of the work yourself, you can save a ton of $$$$. Hope this info helps. Vet
     
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  8. Brett Slater

    Brett Slater Super Moderator Staff Member

    Clean it up, tune it up and drive it. They're only original once.

    As mentioned above: instrument cluster removal is a tedious job that can potentially yield pleasant results. I did mine a couple years ago.
     
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  9. FLGS400

    FLGS400 Gold Level Contributor

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  10. MLP

    MLP Member

    Thank you all.
    Some random items:

    It is a/c car - fan making noise so I'll have to replace it in any case. I'm sure the a/c will need service, but no leaks.
    I bought new upholstery from Legendary - still in box.
    I tuned it, shocks, tranny & rearend seals. Carb is actually driveable but not perfect.
    Have almost all new rubber for doors/windows on the shelf.
    Grille is cracked but have OPG one on the shelf.
    Random other small parts on shelf.

    Photos next week. Rain is almost gone.
     
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  11. VET

    VET Navy Vet, Founders Club

    This want my Dakota instrument cluster looks like.

    Dakota dash gages 70 Buick GS.jpg
     
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  12. VET

    VET Navy Vet, Founders Club

    I have a better pic, without so many light reflections.

    G - 87EF712C-0D1F-4BBC-8913-1EB472FE04B7.jpeg
     
  13. George D.

    George D. Platinum Level Contributor

    Agree with the above. Post some pics. Freshen up the safety items, some covers to put over the seats, drive the hell out of it! These cars are made to be operated!
     
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  14. VET

    VET Navy Vet, Founders Club

    I agree with you 100%. I have spent 3 1/2 years getting my Buick drivable.
    It's almost there, a final tune and off we go.

    I have to admit, what i was sold
    as a turn key driver, was a huge lie from the consignment dealer.
    The engine issues and high water temperatures issues are a huge deal. I finally able to cure these problems with a lot of help from members of this forum.
    Thank you all so much. You all know who you are. Vet
    PS, George is right, drive the heck out of your Buick.
     
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  15. MLP

    MLP Member

    Instrument panel looks good. Like the 160 mph.

    Thanks again to all. Should have photos this coming weekend.
    Mike
     
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  16. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Not all cars need to be restored
     
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  17. Brett Slater

    Brett Slater Super Moderator Staff Member

    Preserved is a more cost effective approach.

    Another thing to think about is not deviating from how the car was ordered. By that I mean, keeping the car as ordered - or keeping it simple - esthetically.

    We can't keep these things forever and as Alain mentioned above, the next guy might not particularly care for an interior that resembles the Millennium Falcon, crazy paint schemes or any other custom "upgrades". They tend to hurt resale prices. This is typically the same for adding options the car didn't come with. Some guys are into that and I get it but in my many years of Buicks, I've seen cars that would have faired better if they were left as they were as new.

    Unless, that's your thing then by all means, have at it but a rust free, one owner car will fetch more down the road if it's preserved.
     
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  18. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Well said! The more you deviate from the original recipe the smaller the demographic gets come resale time. Now you have to find someone that not only likes the car, but likes all the modifications. You may say you're never going to sell it, but eventually it happens
     
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  19. VET

    VET Navy Vet, Founders Club

    When you die, your wife will sell it or if she's gone, your son or daughter will sell it, but likely they don't know a thing about your car.
    someone will get a great deal.

    From going to car shows with my Buick, 95% of the people that go, don't have a clue what a Buick is. Ask me how I know. Vet

    PS, like a will or a Trust, make sure your family can find all the paperwork on your car with good photo's. :)
     
  20. alain

    alain Well-Known Member

    :)With my two GS that I have restored was often told nice Chevelle
    It happened more with the 1971 fern green Stage 1 that was a limited production Chevelle:eek: very rare
    Such is life
    Alain 1970 platinum 442 4spd factory A/C also been called a Chevelle:(
     
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