Bowl leaking?

Discussion in 'The Venerable Q-Jet' started by 69WILD, Sep 6, 2022.

  1. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    I believe the bowl is dry on my 72 gs 350 quadrajet. Starts hard after long cranking now after my rebuild of the engine. Accelerator pump works a bit better if I pour gas down the vent tube. I tried to check fuel level down the vent tube with a long toothpick and didn't see anything on it even after priming. I'll check accelerator pump again after sitting for a day. I have replaced the mechanical fuel pump during rebuild that seemed to help a bit. I believe I read 72 carb plugs didn't leak as badly as earlier ones? I haven't pulled carb off yet.
     
  2. lemmy-67

    lemmy-67 Platinum Level Contributor

    72 and later Rochester 4MV Q-Jets had metal plugs which were pretty solid, but if your Q-Jet is a remanufactured unit...all bets are off. Some of them still have the lousy little brass cups from earlier models which always leak, and you need to put marine-tex or some other sealant on the plugs.
     
  3. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    Not been rebuilt in the 40 years I've owned it.
     
  4. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Remove the carb abs seal it up with marine Tex as stated above
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    :DReally? Don't you think after 40 years the carburetor deserves a rebuild? If for no other reason than to install ethanol resistant parts?
     
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  6. mikegs400

    mikegs400 Well-Known Member

    Larry is correct! That carb needs a rebuild , epoxy the plugs , then if bowl is still empty after it sits put window less needle and seat in .
     
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  7. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    Yes it should definitely have a rebuild but I would like to drive it the rest of the season and try to eliminate the detonation also.
     
  8. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    Accelerator pump works great after sitting a day. I found a kink in my new fuel line. Why doesn't hard line point towards the fuel pump so flexible line can go straighter?
    I'm about ready to add a 90* barb elbow!
     

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  9. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    I'll try to go to my hydraulic hose dealer tomorrow to get a length of kink resistant.
     
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  10. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    I hoping this might be part of my troubles.
     
  11. GSX 554

    GSX 554 Gold Level Contributor

    Just sitting for a week , even without the plugs dripping , Gas will evaporate from the fuel bowl . But as Larry has said its long due for a rebuild .

    I experience evaporating fuel on some of my cars that sometimes sit for weeks if not months at times but don't mind the extended cranking to get fuel to the bowl because there is a better chance of building a bit of oil pressure thus lubing the bearings a bit .
     
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  12. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    I'm thinking the kink may have caused vacuum and sucked it dry?
    It never used to be a problem and isn't getting over 180* much.
    I'm having trouble finding kink resistant fuel line.
     
  13. FLGS400

    FLGS400 Gold Level Contributor

    Maybe just try a slightly longer piece of standard fuel line. I don't have a picture, but I have not had that problem with the standard fuel line I bought from O'Reilly's.
     
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  14. techg8

    techg8 The BS GS

    evaporation and drain back are the most likely culprits.

    you can switch to a non windowed fuel inlet seat if you havent already. That effectively raises the minimum fuel bowl level in the case of drain back thru the needle and seat.

    You could put a check valve in the fuel filter that would limit drain back as well. basically it closes when there is no fuel pressure coming in, so no fuel can make its way back to the tank from the carb.

    common common complaint.
     
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  15. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    Bowl still dry today. I installed the checkvalved fuel filter now. I'll check if it starts easily next week.
     
  16. BadBrad

    BadBrad Got 4-speed?

    Easy to just pull it off the manifold and check the plugs. If mine sits for three days it wants a short shot of accelerant to light off so I go through one or two cans of starting fluid every year since I drive it about once every other week. Modern fuel is not formulated to stay liquid in an open container (like the carburetor) for very long (my garage has been about 100 degrees most of this week). Fuel injection is a totally closed system.
     
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  17. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    I really don't see any way the factory fuel line setup could kink? That seems impossible. Maybe photos of yours?
     
  18. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    I just add fuel down the vent tube to fill the bowl. Then it starts right up and keeps running. Should be interesting if this check valve makes a big difference.
     
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  19. 69WILD

    69WILD Ron

    Here is the photo of my fuel line again
     

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  20. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    That fuel line appears twisted. Loosen the clamp (Green), and untwist the fuel line. Rotate it CCW, and it will un kink. Fuel injection hose will be stiffer with more reinforcement.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2022
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