Can anyone id this axle?

Discussion in 'Got gears?' started by 69gs400 conv, Apr 13, 2021.

  1. 69gs400 conv

    69gs400 conv Member

    This is the axle in my 69GS400. I know the rear end was replaced at one time and I'd like to bump up the gear ratio but not sure what ring and pinion to get. Its currently a 3.08 I believe (tire rotation to drive shaft rotation method). Any help would be appreciated IMG_3584.jpg IMG_3595.jpg
     
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2021
  2. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    How about a picture of the rear cover...
    And where are the codes located on the tube
     
  3. 69gs400 conv

    69gs400 conv Member

    The codes are stamped on the passenger side facing the front.
    Pic of rear cover: IMG_3598.jpg
     
  4. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    Looks like a Pontiac 8.2”
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    And that is good news because parts for that rear are no problem.
     
  6. 69gs400 conv

    69gs400 conv Member

    So a ring and pinion for a Pontiac 8.2 is what I'm looking for then. Is the year significant in this case?
     
  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Let Jim and/or Brian confirm this, but all you need is the BOP 8.2 gears. Those are easily available from Jegs or Summit.

    What ratio are you looking for? 3.08 is a great compromise gear set. The higher numerically you go, the better your acceleration, but the higher your RPM is on the highway. You can figure out RPM at speed with the following formula,

    336/tire height X gear ratio X MPH = RPM

    Add 200 RPM for converter slip

    So for a car with stock tire height of 26.6 and a 3.42 gear at 60 MPH,

    336/26.6 X 3.42 X 60 = 2592 + 200 = 2792 RPM
     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2021
  8. mikethegoon

    mikethegoon Well-Known Member

    Looks like a real beauty. Clean underneath too!
     
  9. 69gs400 conv

    69gs400 conv Member

    Thanks Larry. Looking for better acceleration without going too crazy. Was thinking 3.55. Waiting for Jim and/or Brian to confirm.

    Thanks Mike. Its been in the family since new.

    GS.JPG
     
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  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  11. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    If In fact it is a 3.08, I’d leave it be.
    Like Larry said 3.08 is a good gear;)
     
  12. 69gs400 conv

    69gs400 conv Member

    Just looking to get a little better launch and since its hardly ever on the highway going from 3.08 to 3.55 isn't too drastic. Based on the formula Larry provided above its only about a 356 rpm increase at 60 mph.
     
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  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    336/26.6 X 3.55 X 60 = 2690 + 200 = 2890

    336/26.6 X 3.08 X 60 = 2334 + 200 = 2534

    Yup, about 356 RPM.

    You can always go the way I did. I added a Gear Vendors Overdrive. My final drive is about 2.77. 60 MPH is about 2300 RPM.
     
  14. 69gs400 conv

    69gs400 conv Member

    Have not heard of that before. Just looked it up. Looks like it basically converts the 3 spd tranny to 4 spd. Nice way to go but above my budget.:(
     
  15. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Yes, add on overdrive that is good to 1200 HP. It's above your budget now, but maybe not in the future. Start saving.:) You can also look around for a used one. They are nearly indestructible, and Gear Vendors customer service is awesome.
     
  16. 69gs400 conv

    69gs400 conv Member

    Thanks. Good info!
     
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  17. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    If in fact you MAY go Gear Vendors, may as well install 4.11 gears now:p
     
  18. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    You will need to change out your carrier to go into the 3.36 and steeper gears. Jim JD Race
     
  19. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Jim, can he go to 3.23? Is that ratio available for the BOP rear?
     
  20. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    He can .... But nothing in the aftermarket for the mid series carrier
    No 2.93 no 3.08 no 3.23.
    3.36 is a close as we can get to 3.23 in the aftermarket.
    Jim
    JD Race
     

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