Car is rich at idle.....can't adjust out with screws?

Discussion in 'The Venerable Q-Jet' started by real82it, Sep 9, 2015.

  1. real82it

    real82it Silver Level contributor

    hi. 800 CFM quadrajet. Newer style with the APT.

    The car runs rich at idle while in park or in gear. Choke adjustment is ok.

    Carb is basically new, but was prepped by SMI induction (including drilling the idle passages).

    If I screw the idle adjustment screws in the front of carb all the way in, car of course goes too lean and stumbles. If I just crack them open 1/4 each, car idles and comes off idle fine, but is rich according to my A/F meter (~12:1).

    Part throttle cruise is ok.

    Should I worry about about the fact the meter shows it is so rich at idle? I will be in a lot of stop and go traffic and would hate to foul plugs because of this.

    Suggestions of what to look at?
     
  2. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    12.1 isn't that bad , if it was 10 or less youd have issues.
     
  3. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Contrary to popular belief, the front mixture screws do not adjust idle mixture, they meter the volume of fuel air mix allowed to enter the air stream. The actual fuel air idle mix is determined by the passages and idle air bleeds. My 800 Q-jet idles right about 13.3 according to my A/F meter.
     
  4. knucklebusted

    knucklebusted Well-Known Member

    If it runs well, check the plugs and see what it shows. A little rich is probably better than a little lean. You have a working PVC valve/system?
     
  5. carmantx

    carmantx Never Surrender

    What quadrajet is it? Would need to know the idle tube size, down channel restrictions and idle bleed sizes you currently have.
     
  6. techg8

    techg8 The BS GS

    Vacuum reading at idle is very telling when diagnosing.
     
  7. Bigpig455

    Bigpig455 Fastest of the slow....

    it took a long time, but I've learned to ignore the A/F meter - go by your gut, plugs, tailpipe and sense of smell. tuning to perfect ratios never produced the best ET's, at least in my 65.
     
  8. Cliff R

    Cliff R Well-Known Member

    Most q-jets end up with the mixture screws several turns out from seated. If yours are than sensitive and nearly closed then there is a LOT of fuel coming down to them at idle speed. If you can't clean up the A/F at idle and it's still stinky and rich then you will need to either add some idle air or reduce the DCR's and maybe even the idle tubes size......Cliff
     

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