Car will not start, Please Help!

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Jimmy12, Mar 3, 2020.

  1. CraigFaller

    CraigFaller Well-Known Member

    I used a 1/2" air impact to remove the balancer bolt and the balancer slid right off. If you can get access to an air/electric impact driver, it might be the easiest and safest way to loosen that bolt. I think it's torqued to 120 ft.lbs (TA catalog torque specs). Give that balancer a good look-over for damage (rubber ring cracked, etc) when you have it off.

    There is another trick for breaking the balancer bolt loose - using a long breaker bar with a socket on the balancer bolt, pinning the breaker bar in a safe, locked position, and then bumping the starter to break the bolt loose. I have not done this, so someone else may need to provide some details to make sure this is done safely (cut power to the distributor so it doesn't actually start, where to pin the breaker bar, etc). I believe I came across this somewhere in the small-block forum, so I'm sure you could find some good directions on how to do this if an impact isn't an option.
     
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  2. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much Craig so if I’m understanding this correctly the bolt that holds down the balancer is the same bolt used to “crank” the engine over to get to tdc. I’m assuming I will go counter clockwise to loosen it like a regular bolt
     
  3. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Yes you are correct, counter clockwise. Once the bolt is out you can remove the balancer without any tools. It will slide off.
     
  4. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Thank you guys very much
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Very simple, breaker bar and socket. Rest the end of the breaker bar against the ground on the DRIVERS side of the car. The starter motor will easily break it loose. Putting it back on is more complicated but we will cross that bridge when needed.
     
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  6. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    Pull the coil wire! just in case....
     
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  7. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Copy. I will be working on it a littler later today when I get off work.
     
  8. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Sorry for all the questions but I have one more. Before I begin pull stuff off the car, do I have to put my harmonic balancer to TDC mark? If my timing chain is in fact so loose that it may have jumped a tooth or a few would that not mean that my tdc is off now?
     
  9. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    The balancer on a Buick is held on by a large bolt and washer. It is not a press on like other cars. It will slide on and off easily as long as nothing is wrong and keyway is decent. So just remove bolt. Slide off
     
  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    No, you will need to line everything back up when you replace the gear set and chain. Then you will have to put the distributor back in on TDC compression.
     
  11. 72gs4spd

    72gs4spd Well-Known Member

    No need to be at tdc when removing the balancer bolt. Once you get the timing cover off align the dots on the timing gears. FUI if the don’t line up when the crank dot is at 12 o’clock the chain jumped. Just leave the crank in that position and replace timing set put cover back and put distributor to fire number one cylinder. You can put index marks on the distributor when at tdc for number one compression stroke to assist with reinstallation. Good luck.
     
  12. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Thank you guys again for the help. I began removing stuff last night, I drained the oil, drained the coolant removed the fan shroud fan fuel pump dizzy. I began trying to remove the bolts off the pulley in front of the balancer. Those bolts are in there! I sprayed some lube on them and let it sit. I will try and start this weekend to remove everything again
     
  13. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    You don't necessarily have to remove that pulley from the balancer.
     
  14. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Really? Awesome that makes it easier. I was trying to take it off because the belt that goes to the power steering is still attached to it. I didn’t know how to loosen the power steering to take it off so I figured if I loosened the pulley it would come off
     
  15. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    A couple bolts on back side of pwr strg pump allow it to pivot for belt adjustment.
     
  16. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    I was looking at all the bolts that thing has but was unsure. Thank you for that
     
  17. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

  18. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Copy, thank you for that!
     
  19. BuickV8Mike

    BuickV8Mike SD Buick Fan

    Its easiest to remove the pulley on the balancer first. Unless the radiators out. Imo The socket for the large balancer isn't usually that long. Its tight and you want the breaker bar at 90 degrees when you hit the switch.
     
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  20. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Yes it is, unless you have air power, and an assortment of tools.
     

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