expansion or recovery tank?

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Kenny462, Jan 2, 2019.

  1. Kenny462

    Kenny462 Gold Level Contributor

    which do our cars have? please explain!! thanks. kenny462 72gs
     
  2. OZGS455

    OZGS455 Oh what a wonderful day!

    you talkin bout the cooling system?
     
  3. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    Early cars just had overflow...not good since there was always air in radiator for expansion. Later cars have recovery so radiator stays full and when motor cools coolant can go back where it came from. Caps are different....you have to use later cap in order to get the coolant to return. Basically a 2 way cap rather than just puke....
    Does that help?
     
  4. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Why do you need a special cap? I thought the philosophy was under heat and pressure the fluid goes out the top radiator nipple through the hose into the bottom of overflow tank and as radiator cools and pressure reverses the fluid gets sucked back into radiator. But that doesn't mean I understand how any of this stuff works that is just what I thought happened.
     
  5. woody1640

    woody1640 Well-Known Member

    So they have different radiator caps???? Since when?? Never heard of any such thing! Please explain this to us, cause inquiry minds want to know!


    Keith
     
  6. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ditto^^^^^^^^^^^^ I put a apple juice jug in my 67 for a coolant recovery tank.... work fine...
    My Rad is a GS 400 4 core not stock. It doesn't have the factory full line on it, so this was my way to make sure its full. I just keep a eye on the AJ bottle no reason to pop the cap...
     
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  7. cruzn57

    cruzn57 cruzn57

    A cap for a recovery system has two rubber seals: on the face of the main valve, which seals against the lower inner diameter of the radiator neck (all caps have this seal), and a larger seal, just under the cap’s underside, which seals against the outer upper diameter of the radiator neck. This forces overflow coolant through the overflow tube rather than gushing past the cap, and when the system cools down and coolant volume in the radiator decreases, the suction is channeled to the overflow tube, which instead of sucking air draws coolant from the reserve tank back into the radiator.
     
  8. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    MANY caps you buy today have BOTH seals on them. Maybe reason some have had no problems. They were just not aware of the double seals.
     
  9. Kenny462

    Kenny462 Gold Level Contributor

    thanks!!!!!!!! does not answer my ?changing to a billet alm tank. summit offers recovery and exp.tank! which should I get to replace stock unit?thanks Kenny!
     
  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  11. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

  12. 68 Skylark cust

    68 Skylark cust French Canadian Member

    Looking for a home-made cheap recovery tank/bottle any clue ? For a 68 Skylark w/stock 350.
    Thank you
     
  13. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    A 1 liter coke bottle will do the trick
     
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  14. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    Yes, I use an old water bottle about the same size Tom suggested above. It fits snugly in between the radiator and (what's left) the core support. Make sure the hose from the overflow is long enough to get down into the fluid, or you won't get any return.

    This is obvious, but I can't help but say it.
     
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  15. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

  16. stagedgs

    stagedgs 1967 GS400

  17. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    When I put a recovery bottle into my '68 'Camino, I grabbed a mid-70s Nova recovery bottle from the Treasure Yard, and hid it behind the battery.

    Be sure to use a rad cap suited to use with a recovery bottle. The non-recovery-bottle rad caps don't have the secondary seal to prevent air entry into the rad.
     
  18. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

    Thought I seen a ghost... RIP Kenny.
     
  19. avmechanic

    avmechanic Well-Known Member

    This Dorman one is cheap and easy to find a location for. It should work well for you. Like $10 for one.
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  20. idahoskylark

    idahoskylark idahoskylark

    I have a 151 bottle in my car and my son has a Crown Royal bottle. Use what ever you would like just run the hose to the bottom.
     

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