Discussion in 'Our Products' started by ken betts, Sep 29, 2018.
thats alot of r's in the box, if you need the tires to go faster woukd just upshifting be easier???
My burnouts aren't in the box....
I get off the throttle around 300 ft and stop around the 1/8 mile in hi gear.
Good engine support has a lot to do with engine life. Along with good oiling
I am sorry but this is no longer Mr Manner design. This evolution to resolve why Mr Manner said or believed that. You're fooling yourself to race competitively you need RPM. I am talking all serious racing no limited original design. These parts that have arrived have surpassed that old thinking. You have BBB going 7-8k past decade, V6 screaming...think Busch, Indy, IMSA, Drag racing..
Thus stuff that has been out isn't what those engineers foreseen IMHO. E.g Indy V6 with huge intakes, shorter deck, 240 deg twin firing... Screamed . These differed from the typical Stage 2.
I believe the old school thought applies to the OEM hardware. Not BMS, TA, KBR..etc..
This new stuff is out of box thinking for old school thinking IMHO.
Looking good as always Dad.
It has been 46 years since I graduated from engineering school. Until I saw your post, I was unaware that the laws of physics had changes during that time. Although there is no question that materials and designs have improved over time, I see engines used in Busch, Indy, IMSA and drag racing grenade all the time.
I never implied that they didn't. To make more poweryour going to have to increase RPM unless you increase in displacement. An engine is an air pump, today's head flow and aftermarket blocks for the BBB surpasses the original design. However, for Max effort, we are behind in flow. Our BBB heads flow near or at 400 cfm, small block head flow.
I don't believe Flynbuick was attempting to say that you don't need rpm to produce HP. He was merely quoting Dennis Manner, and what Dennis said about RPM hurting engines more than output is as true today as it was 50 years ago. It's an accepted fact in the performance industry.
guess that makes more sense seeing its a rail........lol
just like on driving on the highway speed kills......if you take 2 as same as can be motors and run one at 2000 rpms till it blows and run one at 6000 rpms it it blows whuch one do you think will live longer
hp is simply work done over a given time.....time being thr rpm.........on any motor you increase rpm. you get more power...................there is a limit i know.
our bbb were not ever ment to do anything near what we have been doing to them. the motors were built to take the big family to the store, and down the road at 60 mph. when built they could put strength in the 1 of two ways......thick heavy casting........or large crank.
we know what was picked, they saved the overall weight and put a crank with huge mains in. now us go fast take this motor and spin in up in the rpms, now the heavy crank flex around the mains that are just hanging out, us the speed across the bearing just burns everything up. the first thing anyone true to do it make fixes to the orginal design to help overcome the short comings. which is what was done with girdles, block fill, etc.
im sure if mr manner had any clue of what we would be doing to these motor 50 years later, he would had built it different........which is what has just happened over the last few years with ta's block and this new iron block coming out. these can't be easy or cheap to get from paper to having them in real life. Im glad ppl have taken the time to step up and build products that take care of the issues that we induced by stretching the life of the orginal desgin right to the very edge.
Ben having no front brakes does make it hard to hold it in the box. I really don't like taking a shower between the tires either
i bet thats a trip for sure
once you go to a dragster, you'll never go back to a door car.
would love to get the money together to run a 240" 4 link shed my race weight from 3700 to under 2000 drop my mid 10s to mid 8s. but at 6'4 350 the odds of finding a used rail to fit me is slim
Actually not that hard to find Ben.
Send me a pm
this will go with the dragster.
Any update on these? I saw it mentined but not sure if it was answered?? at what point (if any) will these engines require a girdle? how about a lifter girdle? If I can eliminate the need for these parts then that makes this engine more affordable and possibly within my budget. (yea a Buick engine budget whats that??)
No girdles would be needed
To reiterate his first question, any updates?