Amen, brudda! And furthermore, the engineers designed that same car to be cool in Florida during the summer, when it was 95% humidity and 95[FONT=Times New Roman, serif] [/FONT]F while sitting in traffic, with 6 "beached whales" in the car. Or, in the mild California sun, like where I live, where it can be 107[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][/FONT] F in the shade. Even if it is a dry heat, that is painful. BTW Marty, the thermostat is fine, if the car doesn't overheat under any other conditions and warms up on schedule.