X P 715 Riviera prototype

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  1. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

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  2. russ455

    russ455 No longer a bubbletop

    I see a Touch of Corvair in that.
     
  3. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    So do I.
     
  4. WQ59B

    WQ59B Well-Known Member

    GM Photo Store labels this as XP-715 from 1960. Here's another pic (seemingly repainted) - taken in Feb of '60. XP-71X 1.png
     
  5. WQ59B

    WQ59B Well-Known Member

    What's puzzled me is the apparently dual designs under the same XP program code, with both being 'finished' fiberglass models.

    This is also XP-715, what was initially labeled as a LaSalle but (obviously) became the Riviera:
    XP-715 3.png

    Note the lower right photo- a full-interior fiberglass study done by Aug of '60:
    XP-715 1.png
     
  6. WQ59B

    WQ59B Well-Known Member

    Early LaSalle front end shot :
    XP-715 6.png
     
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  7. WQ59B

    WQ59B Well-Known Member

    Obviously the O/P XP-715 got shelved.

    But it's interesting - and unusual - to see the >'63 Riviera< design go into production relatively unchanged from initial sketch (except for lights & bumpers).
     
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  8. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    It was originally going to be a Cadillac, but they turned it down so Buick got it.
     
  9. WQ59B

    WQ59B Well-Known Member

    Correct on the Cadillac aspect. It was pitched to a few other Divisions, perhaps B-O-P, but Buick was the only one who committed to retaining the design without change.
     
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  10. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    It would have been interesting IF Pontiac had actually gotten it. 8 lug wheels, 4spd, Gran Prix type dash, etc. There was a pic of one posted on the ROA website a short while ago.
    To me it looked SHARP!!!

    Tom T.
     
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  11. WQ59B

    WQ59B Well-Known Member

    I think this is that same car (could there be 2?) :
    65 PMD Riv 1.png

    65 PMD Riv 2.png

    65 PMD Riv 3.png
     
  12. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    2+2 Wow! love those 8-lug wheels.....That has to be the Canadian version?
     
  13. WQ59B

    WQ59B Well-Known Member

    Canadian version of what?

    It's someone's custom interpretation of a 'Pontiac Riviera', and very well done.
    Those 2 Divisions seem to have the best ability to blend cues, IMO.

    [In re-reading the above posts, I don't think this is what Tom was referring to...]
     
  14. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    Ever seen a Chevrolet Chevelle vs a Canadian Pontiac?
    It wasn't strange to see similarities in a cross-over look back in the sixties.
    That is what this 2+2 reminds me of, here in America a 2+2 was a 421 Catalina Pontiac.
    This Doesn't look like a self-expression modified Riv to me?
     
  15. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    1967 Chevrolet Chevelle

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  16. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    Pontiac Beaumont 1967 same body style as 67 Chevelle, different grill and tail light assy

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  17. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    That's the vehicle I was referring to. It has 428 on the front fenders. I THINK I saw a pic of the engine. IF I remember correctly it has trip's & a 4 spd.

    Tom T.
     
  18. WQ59B

    WQ59B Well-Known Member

    Oh; of course.
    Canadian Pontiac = Chevy chassis/powertrain, Pontiac sheet metal.

    The 'Pontiac Riviera' posted above is not a production car, it's a custom job.
     
  19. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I'm not surprised that Cadillac turned it down - it would not have really fit with the image that Cadillac wanted. Olds obviously had the Toronado; they would not have wanted to compete with themselves, so it had to be Buick or Pontiac that built the Riviera. I had read that Buick could have had their version of the Toronado, but they were not interested in FWD. This is just conjecture, but I think that Buick was not going to go with the Olds V8 - they would have needed a whole new parts inventory, so they would have had to come up with a new case for the "folded" THM-400. The first Generation Rivs fit Buick perfectly, and are considered by many to be one of the most beautiful cars ever produced in the USA. I'm one of the "many."
     
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  20. WQ59B

    WQ59B Well-Known Member

    Earlier XP-715 clay (wearing '59-60 Eldorado wheel covers) :

    XP-727 ??.JPG
     

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