425 in a Skylark

Discussion in ''Da Nailhead' started by 436'd Skylark, Oct 24, 2022.

  1. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    Looks like I'm taking a tour into the nailhead world. I'm picking up a 66 skylark roller. The local junkyard has a complete 66 riv with a 425 and switch pitch 400. It seems only proper to mate the two. From my Google research it seems the 425 will need a rear sump pan to start. I have a few other questions- it seems the nailhead stuff in an a body isn't a real easy swap

    Regarding the motor mounts, can I make the riv frame pads work? I'm not opposed to fabricating a set, but if the riv mounts can be used, that will all the more easier and i can cut them out while i grab the drivetrain

    The other big issue seems to be the exhaust manifolds. Are the riv manifolds simply not correct or are there interference issues? The driver side manifold looks like it will be close to the firewall.. headers would solve it but would rather not spend the $$ on them.

    The last question is about the accessory brackets. The 425 is complete, would the alternator and PS brackets work?

    I like the idea of the 425, but I don't want to spend crazy money making it work or searching for unobtainable parts..

    Any insight is appreciated!
     
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  2. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Rear sump yes.
    Cut the frame mounts out of the Riv to widdle down to what you will need.
    The accessories from the riv should fit fine.
    Shorty headers
    Have fun with it and welcome to the old timers section :D
     
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  3. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    Riv mounts won't fit the Skylark, it's a much different install. The 65-6 Skylark GS uses adapter plates to attach the engine mount boss at front of block to the crossmember that sits mid-block. You'll need the GS adapter plates, engine mounts and frame pads. It is possible to fab the adapter plates and use Chev engine mounts (3 bolt vs Buick's 4 bolt), you still need the GS frame pads. WildBill just listed headers for the GS, $350-ish or get them from TA.
    In addition to the rear sump pan, you'll need the proper oil pump pickup. Different wiring harness too since starter is on drivers side. Accessory mounts are the same between Riv and Sky GS.
     
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  4. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    Can the exhaust manifolds be made to work?
     
  5. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Not sure on the manifolds, I made my own tri-Y headers. I did a 66 Special years ago with a 401 and 300 trans. Lots of fabrication but I enjoy it.
    You should be good to make what you need with your skill set.
     
  6. Super Bald Menace

    Super Bald Menace Frame off oil changes

    Nope, the Skylark GS manifolds are very unique. The big car manifolds are made to work with a front mounted crossmember
     
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  7. Super Bald Menace

    Super Bald Menace Frame off oil changes

    I've got a complete 65-66 GS setup I don't need. Manifolds, rear sump pan and pickup tube, frame pads and mount adapter plates. Even a set of good used motor mounts. Shipping wouldn't be cheap.
     
  8. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    If the shipping isn't cheap, does that mean the parts are!? Pm sent...
     
  9. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    If all That stuff was put on a mini pallet with 1/2” plywood sides and top he could easily get low cost shipping with “uship” where shippers bid on the job. Being a bit over 100 pounds I would say the best bet is to have it shipped to and from locations with loading docks or a forklift. Or split it up into two 50 pound boxes for manual loading anywhere. I’ve shipped engines 1500 miles for $200
     
  10. Super Bald Menace

    Super Bald Menace Frame off oil changes

    Don't forget a unique radiator and a larger radiator hold down top plate.
     
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  11. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    I've helped guys out w/shipping rates using my UPS account. Just needs the weight, approx. dimensions, and shipping/receiving zip codes.
     
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  12. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    And battery moved to driver's side or really loooooonnnnnnggggggg cables.

    (I put a nail and manual in a '64 Skylark and an Olds small block and manual in a '64 Special)

    It's not complicated, only complex. :)
     
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  13. PGSS

    PGSS Gold Level Contributor

    Walt,
    your needed on the Wet behind the ears thread about rear springs!
     
  14. Babeola

    Babeola Well-Known Member

    GS front springs would also be a good idea (speaking of springs).

    Cheryl :)
     
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  15. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    I'm going to head to the yard this Saturday and better assess the condition of the 425 in the riv. What size is the damper bolt? If it doesn't turn over I'll move in a different direction..
     
  16. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    1-1/8"

    If it has accessory belts, cut them or loosen the brackets so your not fighting any frozen accessories.

    Plugs out and a squirt of 50/50 ATF/acetone and 10 minutes to soak will help.

    Then steady increase of torque back and forth and see if it will free up.
     
  17. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    I made it to the yard today. Upon further review that riv was likely in a flood. There was a layer of mud/sediment on the motor and of course its locked up tight. Back to square one.
     
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  18. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    I forgot the picture 20221029_110326.jpg
     
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  19. Babeola

    Babeola Well-Known Member

    Bummer :(
     
  20. PGSS

    PGSS Gold Level Contributor

    X2.
     

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