68 Grand Prix battery dies

Discussion in 'The "Other" Bench' started by OHC JOE, Jul 24, 2023.

  1. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Any auto parts store will have a GM internal regulator alternator. The trade number is 7127. You'll probably have to ask for an alternator for a 74 GM car. If you ask for an alternator for a 68, your gonna get an external regulator alternator every time
     
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  2. OHC JOE

    OHC JOE Mullet Mafia since 2020

    Yeah ten four but the plug out on the back side is different
    I did see that they have a small retro fit harness available
     
  3. OHC JOE

    OHC JOE Mullet Mafia since 2020

  4. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    I'm confused.....the defective alternator is an internal or external alternator?

    External- 7122
    Internal- 7127

    It's one or the other
     
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  5. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Ok now you got me all confused....

    You have a 68 it should have a Voltage Regulator under the hood somewhere...

    That kit is for a getting rid of the Voltage reg...
     
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  6. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    Last edited: Jul 27, 2023
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  7. OHC JOE

    OHC JOE Mullet Mafia since 2020

    Yep internal regular and alternator has the old school type plug in the rear of the case
     
  8. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Give us a picture of what you have
     
  9. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

  10. OHC JOE

    OHC JOE Mullet Mafia since 2020

    I need the plug like this one but the alternator needs to be internal reg
    That's it
    Looks like I'm going to be doing the one wire set up Screenshot_20230728-102308.png
     
  11. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    That is an external regulator alternator. Which means, if thats the original alternator, your car had an external voltage regulator on it.

    You can easily convert that to an internal by using that conversion adapter and jumper for the voltage regulator harness
     
  12. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    This is an internally regulated delco alternator. The plug is on the side. You can't get an internally regulated alternator with a externally regulated plug on it.

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  13. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    For regular stuff, that's an externally regulated alternator, which is all I see in the parts houses as stock replacements.

    How did you test?

    The conversions to a 10 SI alternator (GM's internally regulated alternator for many years) or a 1-wire deal have different wiring. I can't recall if a 1-wire is a self-exciting conversion or not, or if it retains the function of the idiot light.
     
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  14. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    I know converting to an internal reg alt, the light ceases to work.
     
  15. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

  16. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    I think Joe turned it in as a core…
    Patrick
     
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  17. stellar

    stellar Well-Known Member

    It seems there is a little confusion here. I'll try to clear it up a little. The first pic is what I think you have. It looks like an internal alt, but is an externally regulated alt using the plug you said you need. The pic with 2 alts shows an external with the paperclip and the one to the right of it is an internal. The external alts are interchangeable to be used with a seperate reg. The one that looks like an internal was only used for a year or two. internal and external alts 001.JPG
     

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  18. OHC JOE

    OHC JOE Mullet Mafia since 2020

    Did a simple test first disconnect cables car died
    Remove tested at auto parts store
    It failed
    Got a new one and it's external reg
    So bye bye original style as a core
    I will order a one wire now
    Oh well
    Lesson learned I guess
    Maybe I'll go ahead and install my Holley EFI to it now:D
     
  19. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

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  20. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    Good question, Bob. Maybe Stellar can answer that. Personally, I like the CS130 upgrade myself.

    Stellar, that's some stellar intel.
     
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