70-72 Framingham info needed

Discussion in 'Chassis restoration' started by Duane, Dec 18, 2005.

  1. Duane

    Duane Member

    OK,
    Who has a 70-72 Buick A-body that was built in Framingham Mass and still has the original glass. I need to get some info for an article I am working on. Thanks.
    Duane
     
  2. George D.

    George D. Platinum Level Contributor

    Duane,

    71 post coupe work? I believe I also have rear tinted glass from a 1971 GS 350. Let me know what you need.
     
  3. grannys70skylrk

    grannys70skylrk MORE IDEAS THAN MONEY

    Mine has all the original glass, non-tinted. Let me know what you need?
     
  4. Duane

    Duane Member

    Guys,
    Thanks for the response, and yes a 71 post will do just fine. What I am trying to do is find out which glass manufacturer produced glass for the various assembly plants.

    So, I need the following info to verify the glass is original to that car.
    1. The year, type vehicle, and build date of the vehicle (You can get it from the tag on the firewall.
    2. The manufacturer of the glass, ie PPG, LOF, etc, and the info that is etched with the logo. There is a date code there that I can decode.

    To be honest I thought I had this info for all the buick a-body plants, but realized I was missing the info for Framingham Mass. and Leeds Missouri.

    If someone has any Leeds Missouri info that would also be helpful.

    Thanks again.
    Duane
     
  5. grannys70skylrk

    grannys70skylrk MORE IDEAS THAN MONEY

    For my '70 Skylark 350, build date 05C (3rd week May 1970?) here's what I have as best as can be seen with these old eyes:

    D/S door window PPG Safety Plate AS-2 26-40 Solid Tempered DOT 18 M7.8
    D/S pass. window same as above except 27-30 and M20.8
    Rear window Safety Flo Lite AS-2 27-30 DOT 18 M20.8
    P/S door window same as D/S except 27-20 M7.8
    P/S pass. window same except 26-20 M7.8
    Windshield PPG Flo Lite Laminated Antenna AS-1 120 DOT 18 M25.1

    Hope this helps.

    BTW, which is the date code on the glass?
     
  6. Duane

    Duane Member

    Gary,
    Thanks for the info. According to the numbers you listed here, it looks like all your glass is original except possibly the front windshield. I think it is also original, but you have one of the numbers wrong, which is completely understandable, the numbers are small and I have old eyes too.

    I will PM you the date code info you requested. Thanks again.
    Duane
     
  7. Mike Trom

    Mike Trom Platinum Level Contributor

    Duane,

    Its killin me not to break down those glass codes but I will wait to see your article to verify what I think is correct really is correct... :bglasses: I understand (I think :puzzled: ) most of it except the plant code.

    Your article should be very interesting :TU:
     
  8. Duane

    Duane Member

    Mike,
    The glass date coding systems will not be discussed in this article. I am only using them to verify that the glass is correct for each vehicle, and from this tell which manufacturer was used by GM for different plants.

    This article will talk about how parts sub-contractors were chosen by GM and how finished cars were dispersed.

    Regarding date codes, I have finally decided to write a book about all the date coding systems used on our cars. It will include the cast in date codes, shift codes, and time built codes on blocks, heads, etc, glass codes for LOF, PPG, and DCL glass, front end sheetmetal and body date codes etc. Basically it will decode everything except engine and trans production codes, and will include pictures of every style dating system, as well as reference which parts used each system.

    The idea is that if you use the info in this book, and have a knowledge of part numbers, you should be able to verify that every component of your vehicle is correct.

    I figure the resto guys will love it, and I expect it to be finished this spring.
    Duane
     
  9. George D.

    George D. Platinum Level Contributor

    Duane,

    Before my fingers froze:
    Windshiled: PPG Shaded Soft-Ray AS1 131 DOT 18 M53L
    PS door glass- PPG AS-2 26 11 DOT 18 M20-8

    1971 Post Coupe. Will get build date if you need it. Also, will get the rest of the glass #'s (if you need them).
     
  10. Duane

    Duane Member

    George,
    I don't need the rest of the glass numbers, but I could use the build date of the car. Thanks.
    Duane
     
  11. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    Duane,
    My 70 Skylark is a Leeds plant car. I even have the original buildsheet for it (or 2) and I am sure the glass is all original except the windshield which I had to replace.If info is needed I can get it for you and post it for you.
    Pat
     
  12. Duane

    Duane Member

    Pat,
    That would be great.
    Duane
     
  13. Larry Gibson

    Larry Gibson Platinum Level Contributor

    Glass Info

    Duane,

    I also have a Leeds built 70 Skylark convertible. Do you want the info for it? If so, I'l get and post it. With my glasses on, of course!

    Larry
     
  14. Duane

    Duane Member

    Larry,
    If you can get the info that would be great.
    Duane
     
  15. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    Ok Duane...You asked for it so here goes.
    car 1 1972 GS 350 Framingham built only have doors left plus small section of build sheet
    Build 02C
    DR DOOR SAFETY PPG PLATE
    AS2 27-121
    SOLID TEMPERED
    DOT 18 M 7.8


    Pass Door SAFETY PPG FLO-LITE
    AS2 27-12
    SOLID TEMPERED
    DOT18 M 20.8

    1970 Skylark Leeds OD3 Build

    DR 1/4 AND PASS 1/4 SAME
    SOFT RAY
    SAFETY LOF FLO-LITE
    AS2 AV
    SOLID TEMPERED
    DOT 15 M74

    DR DOOR
    SOFT RAY
    SAFETY LOF FLO-LITE
    AS2 AV4
    SOLID TEMPERED
    DOT 15 M74


    PASS DOOR SOFT RAY
    SAFETY LOF FLO-LITE
    AS2 TV4
    SOLID TEMPERED
    DOT 15 M74
    REAR WINDOW
    SOFT RAY
    SAFETY LOF FLO-LITE
    AS2 UV
    SOLID TEMPERED
    DOT 15 M74


    I also have 2 more cars that I have info on. 1 is a 1972 Skylark with halo top option and it has all the glass except windshield and the other I have the buildsheet but have the doors only. If you'd like that info as well...Let me know.
    Pat
     
  16. Larry Gibson

    Larry Gibson Platinum Level Contributor

    Leeds Plant Info

    Duane,

    Here's the info from the 70 Skylark Convertible:

    Build date 10C

    Windshield - Safety Float Antenna PPG Laminated AS1 25107 DOT 18 M531

    Drivers Door - Soft Ray Safety Flo-Lite LOF AS2 AV4 DOT 15 M74

    Passenger Door - Soft Ray Safety Flo-Lite LOF AS2 AV4 DOT 15 M74

    Left Rear - Soft Ray Safety Flo-Lite LOF AS2 TV DOT15 M74

    Right Rear - Soft Ray Safety Flo-Lite LOF AS2 6(May be a G)V DOT15 M74

    It appears that it is all original except the windshield, I think. Hope this helps.

    Larry
     
  17. Duane

    Duane Member

    Thanks guys,
    That's all I need to finish the article. I wanted to include both the Leeds & Framingham Glass info to finish out the major Buick a-body plants and can do that now. It should prove to be interesting reading, and the conclusions will answer some questions people have asked me about for years.

    It should be finished tonight and then on to the next one about Mark Reeve's Motion GSX.
    Thanks again.
    Duane
     

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