70 GS stage 1....fake?!?!?!

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  1. breakinbuick11

    breakinbuick11 Platinum Level Contributor

  2. Nick

    Nick 70STAGE1

    I just got my Stage 1 appraised for 56K and it does not have the original block, note that the Stage 1 package had nothing to do wtih the block itself, it was the heads, dist, carb, transmission and rear end
     
  3. BUICKRAT

    BUICKRAT Got any treats?

    Stage one block has different stamping #'s than reg 455.
     
  4. breakinbuick11

    breakinbuick11 Platinum Level Contributor

    my point was, a GS for 35K

    a litttle ridiculos
     
  5. ronbuick

    ronbuick Well-Known Member

    Unless I missed it, there was not a mention of it being a stage1 other than
    the emblems, prolly just a GS350 car!!

    Ron
     
  6. ronbuick

    ronbuick Well-Known Member

    Unless I missed it, there was not a mention of it being a stage1 other than
    the emblems, prolly just a GS350 car!!

    Ron
     
  7. TimR

    TimR Nutcase at large

    Last edited: Jul 29, 2009
  8. CarolinaDrifter

    CarolinaDrifter Well-Known Member

    <TABLE class="border white width_full"><TBODY><TR><TD class=top>buickgod.com

    1965-1971 Models

    1st Digit - Division
    4 = Buick
    2nd and 3rd Digits - Series
    33 = Special V6 (1965-67)
    33 = Deluxe L6 (1968-69)
    33 = Skylark L6 (1970-71)
    34 = Special V8 (1965-67)
    34 = Special Deluxe V8 (1968-69)
    34 = GS350 (1968-70)
    34 = GS (1971)
    34 = Skylark V8 (1970-71)
    34 = Sportwagon V8 (1970-71)
    35 = Special Deluxe V6 (1965-67)
    35 = Skylark V6 (1968-69)
    35 = Skylark 350 (1970-71)
    36 = Special Deluxe V8 (1965-67)
    36 = Skylark V8 (1968-69)
    41 = Sportwagon V6 (1965)
    42 = Sportwagon V8 (1965)
    43 = Skylark V6 (1965-67)
    44 = Skylark V8 (1965-67)
    44 = Skylark Custom (1968-71)
    44 = Sportwagon V8 (1967-69)
    46 = Skylark Gran Sport (1964-66)
    46 = GS400 (1967-69)
    46 = GS455 (1970)
    48 = Sportwagon Custom V8 (1967-69)
    4th and 5th Digits - Body Code
    07 = 2 Door Post Coupe
    17 = 2 Door Hardtop Coupe
    27 = 2 Door Post Coupe
    35 = 4 Door Station Wagon
    36 = 4 Door Station Wagon
    37 = 2 Door Hardtop Coupe
    39 = 4 Door Hardtop Sedan
    55 = 4 Door Sportwagon
    56 = 4 Door Sportwagon Custom
    65 = 4 Door Sportwagon
    66 = 4 Door Sportwagon Custom
    67 = 2 Door Convertible
    69 = 4 Door Sedan
    6th Digit - Model Year
    5 = 1965
    6 = 1966
    7 = 1967
    8 = 1968
    9 = 1969
    0 = 1970
    1 = 1971
    7th Digit - Assembly Plant Code
    B = Baltimore, MD
    C = South Gate, CA
    D = Atlanta, GA
    G = Framingham, MA
    H = Flint, MI
    I = Oshawa, Ontario (Canada)
    K = Kansas City, MO
    V = Bloomfield, IL
    X = Kansas City, KS
    Y = Wilmington, DE
    Z = Fremont, CA
    Last 6 Digits - Production Number
    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
     
  9. TimR

    TimR Nutcase at large

    the "34" listed for 70-71 skylark in the above chart is incorrect for 1971. The 1971 assembly manual lists all skylarks for 71 as 433 (27, 37, and 69) and all skylark customs as 444 (37, 67, 39, and 69). Only the GS and the wagon had 434 as the starting digits. This is backed up by a real GM parts catalog, the dove series, owners manuals, and pretty much everywhere else.

    Year one had a this typo in their catalog as well, as an owner of a 1971 GS (documented) it is really annoying. Pic attached from another copy of a buick parts catalog (to take mine apart to scan page is insane with 1000's of pages).
     

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  10. batcar

    batcar Well-Known Member

     
  11. tt455

    tt455 T Bone

    Thanks for clearing that up Tim. I always wondered about that,because I see that often and always thought why they list the Skylark and GS as 434.It has it here also:
    http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/buick-gs/buick-gs-specs.shtml#VIN
     
  12. TimR

    TimR Nutcase at large

    Its the same list...sure makes the rounds, probably because it has info for all the years and if there is one thing generic lists are good at, it's mistakes!! :laugh:
     
  13. MattRush10

    MattRush10 Buick Fanatic In Training

    I was just looking at this and the interior pictures show the tan vinyl. The exterior pictures look like the interior is black... Fishy...
     
  14. oldrocka

    oldrocka John

    That's exactly what I was thinking, that they have used two different cars for the photos, very suspicious. :confused:
     
  15. Poppaluv

    Poppaluv I CALL WINNERS!!!

    I agree, confusing to say the least...

    Heris my query,

    "Ok,Why are the pics of the red car (stage1) showing a black interior??? While were at it, what's up w/ the Stage emblems?

    Before I bid I need answers...
    Thanks,
    Jason:"
     
  16. cjp69

    cjp69 Gold Level Contributor

    It's just the lighting and the tint in the windows, if you look real close you can see the interior is tan and that the pictures are of the same car. The interior is not black in the pictures, look real close and you can see it is brown/tan, especially if you look through the front windshield.
     
  17. tt455

    tt455 T Bone

    Chris is right,it's the tint that throws it off.
    You can clearly see the tan dash and rear package tray along with the top of the seats in the photos.
     
  18. TimR

    TimR Nutcase at large

    What about them? placement? kinda hard to see anything with the crappy pics posted in the ad.
     
  19. Poppaluv

    Poppaluv I CALL WINNERS!!!

    Naw, not the placement, they just don't mention 'em. Just "GS". Seems weird :sleep:

    Anyway here is there response to my question:

    "Here's the answer to the first question, the interior is not black. It is tan. The dash does have some black gauges. As for the Stage emblems, I don't have a clue what you are asking about. On the outside of this vehicle none of the emblems have been changed.":sleep:

    So I can see the interior issue as bad photography, but either they don't know they have a Stage 1,or don't care that it is...:sleep: . Their next auction would be Picasso's painting of "guernica" as "a nice little Mexican canvas".:Dou: (yes I know it's a mural-just sayin')
    :)
    So is it a "Stage" and is it worth it????
     
  20. breakinbuick11

    breakinbuick11 Platinum Level Contributor

    the vin start with a 43437 meaning 70 GS 350 2 dr hardtop.

    well not exactly that but it was originally a 350 car.
     

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