72 Centurian tranny- 350 or 400?

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  1. racerxjj67

    racerxjj67 Well-Known Member

    Any one know what tranny this car came with? Is that an A body car?
     
  2. David G

    David G de-modded....

    I'm thinking that car should have been a 455/TH400 setup from the factory. Definitely would have had a TH400 with the BBB.

    Not an A-body (GS/Skylark)
     
  3. racerxjj67

    racerxjj67 Well-Known Member

    Thanks, it does have a 455, I wasn't sure about the trans. Looking at the engine plus trans for sale and didn't know what it had in back.
     
  4. jamyers

    jamyers 2 gallons of fun

    Should have a TH400, but there is a very slight chance it's a TH375-B, which is a TH350 with extra clutches (as opposed to a TH375, which is a TH400 with fewer clutches, and Buick didn't use).

    If the trans pan looks kinda like Texas, it's a 400. If it's square, it's a 350- or 375B
     
  5. racerxjj67

    racerxjj67 Well-Known Member

    Good info, thanks a lot guys.

    So a 375-B is stronger than a 350 but not as much as a 400, correct?
     
  6. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    It should be a 400
     
  7. jamyers

    jamyers 2 gallons of fun

    Yes - but it'd be a really, really odd duck if you didn't have a 400 in a Centurion.
    I only mentioned it 'cause it's just something to be aware of, and lots of people get the "intermediate" tranny's (375-B and 375) mixed up.
     
  8. bob k. mando

    bob k. mando Guest

  9. racerxjj67

    racerxjj67 Well-Known Member

    Thanks.

    So is it true that I can use any A body rear end in my 68 buick skylark? Do you guys know of any ones that typically came with posi rear ends? for future reference.
     
  10. bob k. mando

    bob k. mando Guest

    So is it true that I can use any A body rear end in my 68 buick skylark?

    pretty much. chevs will normally come with C-clip retainers in the pumpkin for the half-shafts. BOP's normally have the much better bolt in retainers out at the hubs.

    no worries about losing a wheel under hard accelleration if you snap a half shaft. :TU:
     
  11. 66400

    66400 Well-Known Member

    A "B" body car transmission has a much longer tail shaft that an "A" body car.

    Henry
     
  12. racerxjj67

    racerxjj67 Well-Known Member

    That's good to know, but I'm only interested in the tranny and engine. Tailshaft will come later. Been thinking about buying a new shaft to fit instead of finding an old one and cutting it up.
     
  13. Nicholas Sloop

    Nicholas Sloop '08 GS Nats BSA runner up

    Ummmm... When he said "tailshaft" he IS talking about the transmission. There are "short shaft TH400s" and "long shaft TH400s." This refers to the back part of the transmission, the output shaft and its housing. The Centurion transmission is a long shaft TH400. It CAN be used in a 68 Skylark (A-body), but you will have to drill new holes in the frame to move the crossmember back. You will have to shorten the DRIVEshaft (probably what you thought he was talking about) anyway for a TH350 to TH400 swap, but you will shorten it a lot more for a long shaft TH400 vs. for a short shaft. Original TH400s in A body cars were short shaft
     
  14. Nicholas Sloop

    Nicholas Sloop '08 GS Nats BSA runner up

    Any 68-72 A body (Chevelle, Le Mans/Tempest/GTO, Cutlass, Skylark) will bolt in. Your 68 Skylark has an 8.2" rear end. 71-72 Buick and Olds use an 8.5" rear end, which is stronger, but requires a slightly different length driveshaft.
     
  15. racerxjj67

    racerxjj67 Well-Known Member

    Ah ha! that's superb information and answer more looming questions! Thank you again.
     
  16. Gold Skylark

    Gold Skylark Well-Known Member

    1972 Buick Centurion Specifications

    Transmission, Standard: Turbo Hydro-matic 400 automatic
    Rear Axle Ratio: 2.93:1
    Wheelbase: 124.0

    :Smarty:
     
  17. bob k. mando

    bob k. mando Guest

    you will shorten it a lot more for a long shaft TH400 vs. for a short shaft.

    price for shortening the shaft will likely be the same no matter which length you go with.

    the advantage goes to the longer shaft though. a longer shaft will have less deflection at the U-joints and therefore less frictional losses and better delivery of torque to the rear.

    to ID a TH400 use the pics in this thread. a short shaft trans has no ribs on the top of the tail piece and a long shaft has two.
    http://www.teambuick.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9781
     
  18. racerxjj67

    racerxjj67 Well-Known Member

    Since I have a 68 A body would you guys suggest using a short shaft or long shaft tranny or doesn't it matter either way? Is it easier to install using a short shaft?
     
  19. Nicholas Sloop

    Nicholas Sloop '08 GS Nats BSA runner up

    Absolutely short shaft if you can find one. Then you won't have to drill holes in your frame. Even with the holes drilled, the crossmember mounts don't sit nicely on the frame like they should with a long shaft, because it is not a spot the factory intended the crossmember to be, and the frame is not quite flat where the mounts end up.
     
  20. racerxjj67

    racerxjj67 Well-Known Member

    So with a short shaft TH400 I will not have to move the cross member even though it currently has a powerglide tranny?
     

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