72 GS-455 Front Springs

Discussion in 'The whoa and the sway.' started by rkellogg, Jul 20, 2014.

  1. rkellogg

    rkellogg Member

    I have been on this forum for only one day and cant believe how much I have learned in just a few hours. My next question is what springs to get for my 72 GS-455. The springs in there now make the front end set way too low for my taste. I would like to see the front up a few inches. I'll try and post a picture.

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  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I believe most use http://www.springsnthings.com/index.htm
     
  3. nickwhite

    nickwhite Platinum Level Contributor

    Also take a visit to Buick Performance Club.com :TU:
    Just installed the Moog 5398 front springs on my sedan and the ride height is
    perfect and smooth without any modifications. Autozone.com sells them for $80.00.
    Good Luck and welcome to the board.:bglasses:
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Good Idea Nick! http://www.buickperformanceclub.com/springs.htm
     
  5. nickwhite

    nickwhite Platinum Level Contributor

    I will ring you towards the end of this month to meet up with you for a beer when
    I arrive in New York my Buick brother. :TU:
     
  6. rkellogg

    rkellogg Member

    Nickwhite, how many inches is the ride height? Is it a 455 motor?
     
  7. rkellogg

    rkellogg Member

    I looked at the Buick Performance Club.com posting about springs. There is a lot of information, but nothing about the height of the car. I just went out and measured the rear of my car and the fender well is about 25" from the ground. I would like the front the same height, maybe a little higher. But I have no idea what spring to use to get there. I never thought there would be so many different springs to choose from. :confused:
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Perhaps a look at stock trim heights will help. Compare the measurements to stock heights.
     

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  9. rkellogg

    rkellogg Member

    Thanks Larry. Looks like I need a "stock" set of front springs? Now I just need to find out what the part number is.
     
  10. nickwhite

    nickwhite Platinum Level Contributor

    Moog 5398 part no. stock height no modifications to the springs. I will measure height for you.
    Skylark sedan 350 w/ac. Will post tonight.
     
  11. gsx678

    gsx678 Well-Known Member

  12. rkellogg

    rkellogg Member

    GSX678, Did you need a spring compressor to get the Moog 6204 in your car? Is your car a BBB? Thank you everyone for the help!!!
     
  13. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    I didn't use one. I've got a post here of the steps I took. I'll see if I can find it.
     
  14. rkellogg

    rkellogg Member

    cstanley-gs, You used the Moog 6204 springs also? From the looks of the picture you have on here, that is the stance I'm looks for on my car.
     
  15. iacovoni

    iacovoni The Buick.

    I think the stance is perfect?:Do No:
     
  16. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    I ordered from Autozone
    Part Number: FCS5536S
    $74.99

    Xref Brand: Moog
    Xref Part #: 5536


    (just ordered RCS505V rear coil springs for the rear, sportwagon springs as I want a little more height in the back, hope to install those any day, I'll report back)

    Here's my post http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.p...ront-springs-nothing-to-it!&highlight=springs
    For some reason the videos do not show up, here are the direct links

    Passenger side came out easy
    http://vid173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/cstanley444/GS455/IMG_2294.mp4

    Drivers side too, but I had my 'safety' chain around the spring too tight for it to drop out.
    http://vid173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/cstanley444/GS455/IMG_2299.mp4

    Had to jack it up again, take the chain off and then let it down.
    http://vid173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/cstanley444/GS455/IMG_2300.mp4



    When you put the new springs in, make sure the are 'clocked' correctly. You'll see in the lower control arm there's a place for the end of the coil to set.
    From below the control arm you the end of the spring should be in the correct position so you can see it in the oval hole

    Top center of this picture

    <img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/cstanley444/GS455/diagram-1.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo diagram-1.jpg"/>
     
  17. gsx678

    gsx678 Well-Known Member

    Actually the springs are not installed yet.
    Most likely will have to use a compressor when I do the install though. Yes it is a BBB.
     
  18. cstanley-gs

    cstanley-gs Silver Mist

    Just to update about rear springs
    I got RCS505V rear coil springs for the rear, sportwagon springs from Autozone
    They put the ass end up 2.5" and it had too much of a stinkbug look for me
    I put the old ones back in and Autozone took the new ones back with no questions.
     
  19. DavidC77

    DavidC77 "Matilda" 1970 Buick GSX


    Go to this Thread:

    http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?234403-correct-moog-(front-springs)-for-70-455-with-air


    Here is my answer (post #7, 8 & 9):

    Well the 5536 has a higher load, 1985 Lb's compaired to 1642 Lb's. and a better spring rate.

    I would say use the 5536

    I didn't see either listed as a good number with MOOG though going through their listing for Buick

    http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com...s.asp?cat=4202

    http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/default.asp

    But as you can see below they list it by part number

    http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com...prod=MOOG-5536


    http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com...prod=MOOG-5450


    Hope this helps


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    I'm going to use the NAPA 2773002 front and 2773196 rear when I change mine this winter.




    The MOOG 5536 crosses to a NAPA 2773002


    https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/C...006528981&An=0



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    I would use one of these numbers for the rear:

    1st choice: NAPA 2773196 / MOOG 5395

    https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/C...069429590&An=0


    2nd choice: NAPA 2773197 / MOOG 5399

    https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/C...307669190&An=0

    Those two are "constant rate springs"


    3rd choice: NAPA 2775171 / MOOG CC627

    https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/C...069422934&An=0

    This one is a "variable rate spring"



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    Here is how mine sits right now with just the rear springs in (I will be doing the fronts this winter)...


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  20. SteveRacer

    SteveRacer Well-Known Member

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