#8 plug keeps fouling,why?

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by staged67gspwr, Nov 22, 2003.

  1. Adam Whitman

    Adam Whitman Guest

    It could be timing because of more resistance at the plug with more timing combined with a cold plug, but I bet you cured it with the hotter plugs. A 7 is pretty cold for a streetcar. NGK recommends a 5 for stock replacement. I will guess that the Al heads help the plug cool better too (though I don't know this as a fact).

    Can you post a picture of the fouled plug?
     
  2. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    Adam i hope i cured it,we`ll see in the next couple of days if she fouls again,i will post a pic of #8 and from another cylinder to see the difference.

    Thanks
     
  3. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    Here is the best pics i can get,you`ll know right away which is #8
     
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  4. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    this too
     
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  5. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    yes they both are but the #8 is worse,what can cause it?bad carb adjustment?cold plugs?

    Thanks
     
  6. Nitro71455

    Nitro71455 Procharged 455 boost baby

    Both of those plugs are Rich....... number 8 is VERY rich! The porclin shouldn't be that dark like that (very light brown is nice). It looks to me like it's been running really rich for a while.

    If you haven't been running the car hard, your deffenatly running to much primary jet and that's what's killing the plug.
     
  7. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    well i went back down to what came in the 800 dp which are 71`s,i had put in 73`s,i dont normally run the car hard.

    Thanks
     
  8. Nitro71455

    Nitro71455 Procharged 455 boost baby

    That will help,

    After putting some time on it, pull them all (keeping them numbered so you know where they came from). This will give you an idea what your jetting is like to each cylinder and if you should be stagering your jets. However, If your not running your car hard, all you have to play with are the primary jets. I feel confident saying they fouled because you were running overly rich. Chances are, you could even drop to a 70 or so......... Just keep an eye on the plugs, they tell the story.
     
  9. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    I`ll see how she runs in the next few days,i`ll keep you posted:TU:
     
  10. buick535

    buick535 Well-Known Member



    You are definately running WAY too rich there. What you are doing is gas fouling the plug. Alot of times, once they gas foul, even cleaning them won't bring them back.
    Lean that thing out!
    It could be being caused by an interanal carb leak too. Is the car sometimes hard to start when warm after sitting for awhile? Jim Burek
     
  11. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    Jim,sometimes when hot i have to crank it alittle for it to start over,you think my carb may be leaking?internal leak or what?

    Thanks
     
  12. 70455ht

    70455ht Well-Known Member

    Wouldn't a carb leak affect all the spark plugs color.
     
  13. Adam Whitman

    Adam Whitman Guest

    Switching from the TA to B4B intake would give the carb a lot better vacuum signal and the resultant extra fuel, couldn't it? I should add that would make you have to jet down a fair amount.
     
  14. buick535

    buick535 Well-Known Member


    Absolutely, Holley carbs a re known for internal leaks due to metering block warpage. Qj's as well due to other reasons.
    I did not catch what carb you have on it , I was assuming a holley.
    But no doubt, you are way too rich due to a leak or jetting. Jim Burek
     
  15. Nitro71455

    Nitro71455 Procharged 455 boost baby

    Hey George,

    It just hit me.... what size powervalve are you running? If your running a 6.5, it's very possible when your leaning on it a bit, it's opening and dumping to much fuel in causing your plugs to foul. I personally use 3.5...... just something else you may want to check.
     
  16. John Stevens

    John Stevens Well-Known Member

    I had the same problem when I ran a B4B on my '70 GS, checked all the things that has been posted here, The only way I figured out how to "fix it" was by adding a 1-inch spacer under the carb. Drove the car many miles after that & never had a problem again!! Good luck.
     
  17. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    I got a small power valve already,its a 3.5.

    Thanks
     
  18. ricknmel67

    ricknmel67 Well-Known Member

    I dunno George.. thats looks pretty bad to me.
    I'd guess your engine has about 1 week left before she blows.
    Maybe now would be a good time to trade cars with me.
    Even up swap! My little 300 still has the same plugs in it from last year, and I'm sure they all still look great. :Smarty: :Dou:
    :laugh:

    You knew I'd be here sooner or later didn't you? Who knows.... if I keep trying.. maybe I'll catch you in the right mood one of these days!
    A guy can dream can't he?
    :pp

    :beer
     
  19. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    lololol:TU:
     
  20. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    UPDATE:


    Well guys i had installed the hotter running plugs and i told you i`d get back with the outcome,still #8 plug fouled and this time i pulled it out it was wet as in gas wet not oil and the car has been sitting for a day or so not being fired up,at this point i really dont know what causes this problem?next thing to do is a leak down test i guess:Do No:

    Thanks
     

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