A half-century has passed...

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by John Codman, Nov 22, 2013.

  1. bw1339

    bw1339 Well-Known Member

    How do you guys rate JFK as a president? The media portrays him as a sort of demi-god and I don't see any basis for it in his actions.
     
  2. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    Shoot any firearm rifle or handgun, it will always project from impact to exit with the back being blown out more then the entry point ! JFK's brain matter was on the trunk of the limo & the pix of the dead president clearly show the back of his head, that there wasn't much left ! can't shoot somebody from behind & the front won't be blown away! simple scientific FACT !
     
  3. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I suggest that we be careful in our response to this, or we will hear from a moderator.
     
  4. bw1339

    bw1339 Well-Known Member

    I suppose this is in response to my question. I view JFK as an average president, not particularly good or particularly bad. He had his successes and failures. I think the media has turned the man into a god-like figure that he clearly was not. Garfield or McKinley don't get that treatment. Nor should they.
     
  5. Dale

    Dale Sweepspear

    My Dad always said that JFK was never really thought of as that great of a President at the time. It was him or Nixon.
    It was only after his death and the passage of time that he became so highly regarded as a great President.
     
  6. lapham3@aol.com

    lapham3@aol.com Well-Known Member

    Gary and all-the skull is about 1/8" thick and the brain is like blood engorged tapioca. High velocity, non-expanding, military ball ammunition basically punches holes thru the skull and hydrodynamic forces can 'explode' the brain which often (not always, but an impact closer to a graze is more likely)take skull pieces,ect outward. Keep in mind where this landed at Dallas was much affected by being thrown into the airstream above the moving vehicle. There are u-tube and other online imaging of similar-mostly from our military operations in Iraq, ect. Many head shots impart little energy-thru and thru. If you are hit in a major bone, it's a very different story. I was involved in a fair amount of testing of military ordnance on 'such'. Most of the time ordnance gelatin (simulates combined bone and other tissue) was used but not always. My main responsibility was with the high speed photography used for data measurements and documentation of the testing-and I often drove a Buick to the test site:) We are off some from the 50 year observance, so last post from me on such
     
  7. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    Hi Dan, My father-in-law was a high-speed photographic expert. He worked with Doc Edgerton (who attended the wedding of the bride and yours truly) - the inventor of the strobe as a photographic tool. He (my FIL) was responsible for much of the photography of nuclear tests that you often see - including the two-story house that is blown apart. He was the person who analyzed the Zapruder film for CBS. He believed that there was only a single shooter. I spent a fair amount of time watching the Dallas film with him in the '70s. I am a believer that there was one shooter who was firing from the Texas school book depository. There is nothing on the film that would serve to identify the shooter, so I will have to accept the authorities' conclusion that it was Lee Harvey Oswald.
     
  8. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    JFK's "greatness" had to do for the most part with whether one agreed with his politics. For me, his greatest achievement was resolving the Cuban Missile Crisis. Cold War had both sides wound up tight. JFK's advisors were advocating starting WWIII. He didn't take their advice. Instead, he compromised with the uncompromising Khrushchev...our missiles in Turkey for his in "Cuber"...

    JFK was highly regarded around the world during his lifetime. He represented the aspirations and possibilities for the "new generation." His two principal assets were his charisma and his wife...
     
  9. Lantz

    Lantz Well-Known Member

    I think it's important to remember that JFK was a World War II war hero too, not for his killing prowess, but for his loyalty and dedication to his fellow soldiers. Not that it affected the choices he made during his presidency, but it greatly increases my respect for his legacy.
     
  10. Dale

    Dale Sweepspear

    My Father was a Democrat and only 2 years younger than JFK, so I have to believe what he told me over the years held some merit.
    I agree with you though on his achievements and admire JFK for the same reasons.
     

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