Advice, PHOTO PIC Ticket, police

Discussion in 'The "Other" Bench' started by buickapollo455, Jul 9, 2005.

  1. StreetStrip

    StreetStrip Well-Known Member

    But if you jam on the brakes the nose dive will give it away more then your brake lights.
    Down shift if need be. The whole front end wont nose over like hitting the brakes.
     
  2. ibmoses

    ibmoses TORQUEMONSTERHASBEENSOLD

    School bus drivers

    I thought it was just the school bus drivers around here...
    They drive like FDNY going to a three alarm fire. You best not get in the way or you will be smashed by a huge bus being driven by a huge woman(usually).
     
  3. DirtySanchez

    DirtySanchez Well-Known Member

    Yes, the Viqueens do suck. :)

    I hope they build that open air stadium.

    The Packers can't win indoors. And that's with a southern born and bred QB. :laugh: :laugh:
     
  4. Andy Tantes

    Andy Tantes Silver Level contributor

    the Packers can thank one of the worst coaches in NFL history for Brett Favre..

    the one and only Jerry Glanville traded him when he was HC in Atlanta.. :spank:
     
  5. ropelie

    ropelie Well-Known Member

    Farve won one of the only games that truly mattered indoors in superbowl XXXI, but yes, I agree Favre doesnt play his best under a ceiling
     
  6. GTX Joel

    GTX Joel Well-Known Member

    From the United States Constitution:


    Amendment VI

    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.


    I don't see how they can possibly convict any one with these Big Brother camera traps. You have the right to confront their witnesses. There are no witnesses, just a machine. As long as you don't incriminate yourself in court, you are off the hook. I think they are expecting revenue because most folks don't want to be bothered with going to court. :Smarty:
     
  7. BlackGold

    BlackGold Well-Known Member

    Since when have constitutional rights applied to traffic law? Every ticket I've ever received I was considered guilty until proven innocent, and the only way to prove yourself innocent is to go to trial. Kind of bass-ackwards, no? :af:
     
  8. buickapollo455

    buickapollo455 Well-Known Member

    Call your legislature to stop cameras

    under proven innocense, the camera takes you as guilty , and you must prove you were not driving or lent car out. You are guilty, London has made 23million dollars in 5 years of use, LA installed 2 years ago and has made 6.5 million on tickets , This is as.. backwords on our innocense, No officer need be present to even be human in judgement. Buy the spray to stop the camera from taking your picture , kills picture of the plate, so no ticket. All car organizations need to fight this type of road tax is all it is, since many states have a hard time getting road taxes to repair roads, this and seatbelt laws are a joke, motorcycles dont have belts, and no helmet laws make seat belt laws a joke, Congress has 1800 numbers to your person, call them. :rant:
     
  9. darrenkp

    darrenkp Love that Torque!

    And don't forget that traffic tickets are civil infractions, not criminal charges....different rules apply.
     
  10. Gran Sport66

    Gran Sport66 Well-Known Member

    They make amendments to the law to allow these devices to count as the "witness", and your congresspersons, alderpersons, whatever go along wth it.
    Personally if these cams make even a small fraction of drivers STOP running lights, or speed less, ALL OF US are better off.

    By the way, Chicago (and maybe Illinois) made the spray, and anything that obscures a license plate illegal as soon as that spray was widely available on the net months ago.

    Since cars started getting easier (and more fun) to drive in the last ten years or so (I mean nearly any car has good handling, they're smaller, require less horsepower to move quickly, etc.) people have all become Mario Andretti. Freakin just going on a 5 minute drive to the store.
    I swear, people just really get crazy, and very inconsiderate of other drivers/cars.
    It especially sucks living where I do, where there are just too many people and cars-in Chicago area. I love it here, but not the drivers.

    Also, in Chicago-just the city, evidently we have around 2500 cameras in operation all around the city, watching. Not for ttraffic, either. We have those, of course, since it's a revenue-getter, but these are just observation cams. Of course it's not big news that they even installed these cameras-I remember them annouoncing they wanted to do so, a few years ago, but the implementation has been pretty quiet.

    Only a few of these are in "high crime" areas that are very noticeable with a flashing blue light. These I guess have been pretty good in what they try to do, keep crime out of the areas where it can really be awful. Like the kind of places anybody in their right mind gets uneasy walking around in. And the cams are portable, so they can move em if they're needed elsewhere.
     
  11. Andy Tantes

    Andy Tantes Silver Level contributor


    really?

    well the next time you get a ticket ,dont pay it.i bet the cop that arrests you for not paying the ticket wont be taking you to civil court.
     
  12. BlackGold

    BlackGold Well-Known Member

    You say "potAto," I say "potaHto." Either way, the government is convicting and punishing you. I don't see where the constitution differentiates between civil infractions and criminal behavior.

    I totally agree that the road seems to be filled more and more with little Mario Andrettis. (Maybe we're just getting old?) I'd love to see the laws enforced, in terms of unsafe lane changes, lack of signaling, etc. So get the cops to observe and enforce, instead of hiding behind an overpass looking for those wretched speeders. If the cops spent half as much time sitting at intersections and ticketing red light violators as they do in speed traps, we'd all be a lot safer.

    The other essential ingredient to cutting down on red light violators is to give more warning, whether longer yellows or the flashing green that some areas use. I've been rear-ended 9 times in my driving career. I know one thing: when the light turns yellow and I've got the choice whether to slam on the brakes or continue through the intersection, I ain't going to give the guy behind me a chance to become #10. There's the law, and then there's common sense. Cameras aren't real good at the latter.
     
  13. Phil Racicot

    Phil Racicot Well-Known Member

    I hate cameras, we still don't have them here but it shouldn't be too long before we do... :af:

    If we ever get those things here, I'll remove the springs from my license plates holders and find a way to let them open when needed!

    Why don't we try to do something to stop this big brother intrusion in our lives?
    For example, we could suggest to the youngs with spray cans that like to climb the bridges and overpasses and leave their traces there to paint the evil cameras instead! :grin:
     

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