As near as I can tell....

Discussion in 'The "Pure" Stockers' started by Donny Brass, Feb 10, 2009.

  1. Donny Brass

    Donny Brass 12 Second Club Member

    no one has brought a 59 or 60 anything to the Pure Stock Drags.......

    I guess big fins don't fly :Do No:
     
  2. John Brown

    John Brown On permanant vacation !!

    They must all be still cruising the malt shop..... :boring:

    I think a serious 1960 383/330 horse Dodge or Plymouth with the short ram manifolds, two AFB's and a Torqueflight oughta do o.k. Same thing with a 59/60 El Camino or Biscayne with a 335 horsepower 348 tri-power and a B-W 4 speed. 60 Pontiacs didn't have much for fins, but they did have a 389 with 348 (cough) horsepower and 3x2 barrel carbs with the same B-W 4 speed as Chevy. Some of that older iron might make it a little more interesting.
     
  3. Donny Brass

    Donny Brass 12 Second Club Member

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    who would not be proud to run one of these ??
     
  4. Ken Riebel

    Ken Riebel Well-Known Member

    I believe Art Dempsey ran a '60 Pontiac with a 4-speed some years ago. Can't remember what year it was.
     
  5. Donny Brass

    Donny Brass 12 Second Club Member

    maybe before 1998 ??

    I got him in a 65 Pontiac 2+2 from 1998 to 2003
     
  6. pegleg

    pegleg Well-Known Member

    Uh, this is a 57, so is Paul's Corvette. Of course the muscle car era didn't start until 1964.................right?:Dou:
     
  7. Donny Brass

    Donny Brass 12 Second Club Member

    Uhm Frank... I said '59 and '60, what year is your '57 ?? :bla:
     
  8. BB767

    BB767 Well-Known Member

    That is correct Frank, which is why those early Corvettes always feared my '64 so much......

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    Be afraid, be very afraid!! :bla:

    Thomas
     
  9. L78racer

    L78racer undistinguished

    If you say so. :Do No:
     
  10. BB767

    BB767 Well-Known Member

    Paul, how does that saying go............. speak softly and carry a big stick, or in the case of the Impala, carry a heavy stick! :grin: It had road hugging weight for sure.

    Thomas
     
  11. pegleg

    pegleg Well-Known Member

    It's a 58 obviously, built in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 etc. Much as hate to agree with you I'd love to see more of the early stuff also. Brians 58 Merc might be a '58 also! We do in fact need more early (55 to 62, 63 cars to show) It would be neat to watch the progression through the years. And BB, I can tell Paul's scared to death of the '64. Simply terrified. :moonu:
     
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  12. Donny Brass

    Donny Brass 12 Second Club Member

    Brian also brought the only 61 ever.... his Corvette :Smarty:
     
  13. BB767

    BB767 Well-Known Member


    As well he should, but you guys can breath a little easier now since I've largely retired the mighty '64. I'm now spreading terror with my grocery getter! :spank: :grin:

    Thomas
     
  14. pegleg

    pegleg Well-Known Member

    Might have to argue that one. I doubt that we invented the concept of he musclecar in 1963/4. You could make a case for the Ford Flatheads of the 30's, or the Buick Century (straight 8!), or the first 49 Oldsmobiles, or Hudson Hornets etc, etc, ad infinitum. In our world the flathead started it and the small blocks Chevy's in '55 really ignited the issue. Be neat to see some of those cars at Stanton. The Chrysler Letter cars, '56 dual quad Pontiacs, '57-60 tripower Pontiacs. 225, 270 or 283 hp Chevies, E code Ford 312's, Plymouth Furies, Dodge D-500's, DeSoto Adventurers, Olds J-2's, blah, blah.
    Incidently, I used to work for the Company that cast and machined your intake on the L-79, along with a lot of other GM aluminum stuff. Did you know that there were (GM) small block heads in aluminum in 1961?:confused:
     
  15. Chevy454

    Chevy454 Well-Known Member

    I'm gonna take a guess and say those went straight to Gulf racing in Pennsylvania...when dad was helping with the Yenko estate he also helped move some Gulf Racing stuff...original Grand Sport engine, dynos, etc...was unbelievable to see some of the stuff Chevrolet funneled to Gulf, stuff that was allegedly *never made*...we've talked to a few ex-Gulf racers, and they basically said if Gulf asked for it, Gulf got it!
     
  16. Donny Brass

    Donny Brass 12 Second Club Member

    1960 Corvette F.I. Aluminum Heads
    Because all Corvette engine production and the various RPO combinations of roadracing equipment have been documented for decades, little of it is included in this story. Note that in 1960, engineers cast aluminum heads for the 315hp fuel-injected engine. Extensive testing was done by many engineers, contracted engine shops, and race teams. At the very last moment, the heads were removed from the option list due to coolant leaks. Over the subsequent years we have seen a number of sets of NOS, never-used, factory aluminum heads.

    In talking with Chevrolet engineers of the day, the new aluminum foundry pouring process made the heads too hard. As a result, the steel head gasket could not adequately seal. Cylinder compression then caused engine coolant to be purged-mostly into the cylinder, then out the exhaust valve. Factory aluminum heads were not seen again until 1967, this time for ultra-performance big-block engines. It would be interesting to see if one of today's head gaskets with a panograph (O-ring) would seal the '60 aluminum heads.
     
  17. Casey Marks

    Casey Marks Res Ipsa Loquitur


    It's Frank's fault ..... dang foundry.......... :bglasses:
     
  18. pegleg

    pegleg Well-Known Member

    Heard that before! :rant: Actually the "inside story" was porosity in the castings. We, or no one else in Detroit, had really perfected the process with the right alloys, core venting and gating. Notice that that the 215 Olds/Buicks used aluminum sucessfully a couple years later. Those parts weren't made at Winters. I actually wasn't there in 60/61, Busy with High School and Uncle Sam's Yacht Club until '66.
    I did find some of the tooling later, junk by then, along with the FI castings for both the '57 Chevies and Pontiac Bonnevilles. By the way Rambler had an FI setup in 1958, wonder who's got one of those?:confused:
     
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  19. John Brown

    John Brown On permanant vacation !!

    They're probably sitting on the shelf next to the 58 Fury and DeSoto Bendix F.I. :Brow:

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  20. pegleg

    pegleg Well-Known Member

     

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