Thanks, the Kleiner stuff is sold. TPP Z bar & stud is all that is left. It is a good piece and a great price since I installed the upper bushing that they do not have provisions for. Great replacement for old worn out OEM. I checked the geometry against a OEM and it was spot on. The only difference being they don't come with the upper bushing and they use smaller diameter ball stud. Cheers! MarkO