BBB Wobbly Pully

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Skylard, Nov 28, 2018.

  1. Skylard

    Skylard Well-Known Member

    455 pulley wobbles.
    i removed the pulley to check for damage and cracks but it checks out OK.
    I put my braker bar on the crank bolt, it's tight.
    i check the end play, with out an indicator about .010", it has not changed its always been appx .010".
    At 850RMP it wobbles, if i raise the rpm's it runs true and as the rpms come down it starts wobbling again.
    I tried but could not upload a video here.
    Cheers!
     
  2. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    I have the same issue. I took off the flex plate cover and also noticed my flex plate seemed to have more wobble than what I thought to be normal yet the converter spins true. I'll be watching this post for some insight to the situation.
     
  3. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    WHICH pulley? The one on the crankshaft damper?

    I don't know how it can wobble at 850 rpm but not at higher speed.
     
  4. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

    Does it have a vibration associated with the wobble?
    I've seen belts with a nick in them that gave an optical illusion of a wobble?
    Just a thought!
     
  5. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    if it wobbles at 850 it wobbles at rpm too.

    if someone used a hammer to drive the dampener on instead of pulling it on with a tool the could have damaged the face where the pulley sits..........pulley could be bent, or cracking.........lost a crank pulley the other season racing........the center hub was still bolted firmly in place, the rest of it.......gone somewhere on the grounds of clay city ky dragstrip. I sure hope someone found it b4 the mower did.......lost it about near the 660 mark, made a hell of noise and caved in the tube for #2 alot.......

    flex plate wobble is actually fairly normal and long as not crazy. my brand new jaw wheel had .030 when installed. rear crank flanges has 0. jw wheel told me perfectly within specs. go ahead and run it. course they also sent me the same late with the balance weight covering one of the holes needed for my torque converter forcing me to redrill 3 new hole, after everything was balanced:rolleyes::(
     
  6. agetnt9

    agetnt9 Agetnt9 (Dan)

    My pulley was bent, i put it on a flat surface and tapped it with a hammer while pedestal mic it each time and got it straight. Must have bumped it removing engine at one time.
     
  7. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member





    Here's my 72 455 wobbling crankshaft pulley and flex plate videos. This is the car at idle.
     
  8. Skylard

    Skylard Well-Known Member

    Video
     
  9. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Check crankshaft thrust.
     
  10. Skylard

    Skylard Well-Known Member

    Hi Larry!
    i check the end play, with out an indicator about .010", it has not changed its always been appx .010".

    Has a balloon plate on the convertor.

    I think i'll remove the pulley and check it with just damper.
     
  11. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Hey Skylard I wasn't trying to hijack your post by the way I just wanted to post the videos so you could see if it was doing the same as mine. I'm watching your thread in Hope's of gaining new insight.

    Cheers!
     
    Skylard likes this.
  12. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    If a pulley is bent, it doesn't miraculously straighten out at higher RPM, so there is another reason for the movement. The only thing I can think of that fits the observed movement is crank end play. Specs say .003-.009, but you need to be precise when measuring it. A dial indicator is best I guess.
     
  13. Skylard

    Skylard Well-Known Member

    1969 Rivi..... it’s good to see another video.

    I was reading on yellow bullet Chevy guys with same problem.

    I’m guessing someone who runs an engine dyno, could shed some lite.

    Larry, I know what you mean but even if the converter ballooned and was .060” forward I don’t see how that would cause this.
    I don’t hear a crank bearing making noise.
    I did take the belts off and yanked up n down on the pulley, I didn’t feel any movement.

    If it wasn’t raining I’d remove the pulley and watch the damper.

    Thanks guys Cheers!
     
  14. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    As the others have posted, ..... the pulley is not straightening out with higher engine RPM, it is just more difficult for the eyes to pick up the wobble at higher RPM.

    Larry
     
    BuickV8Mike likes this.
  15. Skylard

    Skylard Well-Known Member

    In other words your saying it’s always present but an optical illusion at higher rpm.
    I guess I need to understand that more.

    Maybe I’ll use my camera and work the shutter speeds to see if I can find something.

    It’s probably just the pulley is not concentric.

    Cheers!
     
  16. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Ok Not a Buick or even Gas. Cummins owners manual states at X0,000 miles inspect vibration damper. I've replaced mine on the cummins & a few on SBC With fluiddamper..
     
  17. agetnt9

    agetnt9 Agetnt9 (Dan)

    That flex plate must be cracked. they are not very strong. and pulley is bent.
     
  18. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Agetnt9 you are speaking of my videos correct? How can you tell if a damper is no good anymore?
     
  19. Skylard

    Skylard Well-Known Member

    The optical illusion can be seen in the video I posted, if you focus only on the timing tape you see what I mean.
     
  20. agetnt9

    agetnt9 Agetnt9 (Dan)

    The pulley bolts to the solid steel on the flange that is on the crank. the crank is bent? I don't think so.
     

Share This Page