Block & head crack 'tween 3 & 5

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Oz72RivGS, Aug 15, 2004.

  1. Oz72RivGS

    Oz72RivGS Member

    72 Riviera GS (ie: factory stage one motor)
    Throw block away and repair stage one head? :ball:

    The Details....
    Here's what I found:
    Pulled driver-side head off and found head gasket blown out between cyls 3 and 5 and also from 3 through to push-rods/valley. Cracked between chamber 3 & 5 on the head at the gasket face and between bore 3 & 5 at the top of the block (once again, at the head gasket face). Cracks are not deep (less than 1/4 inch down 3 and 5's bore) nor much wider than a few hairs breadth. I don't think they go through to water jacket as engine did run rough for several hours total without coolant loss - over a period of months (hardly driven at all and off the road (legally) for months). No condensation/greysludge in oil or under oil filler cap/ rocker cover either. smoked light grey/white on driver side exhaust pipe too.

    Question:
    the block crack - a job for 'cement' ?
    :Do No:
    (I understand welding is an engineering nightmare. A financial nightmare for poor me (lack $$$)).
    Car is just kept for occasional cruise - family heirloom. Don't intend to do much more than get a full 400hp out of it and restore it's drop-dead gorgous looks. :3gears:
    Please bare in mind that I'm on the other side of our beautiful planet, and Buicks of all kinds are very rare here.

    I value and appreciate expert opinion and comments that point in that direction. :Smarty:

    The Riv is too, too beautiful to junk.

    Could arrange to post photos...
     
  2. Oz72RivGS

    Oz72RivGS Member

    Here's photos of the head crack and the block crack.
     

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  3. Oz72RivGS

    Oz72RivGS Member

    OK, now here's the block...
     

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  4. GStage1

    GStage1 Always looking for parts!

    Store the original engine and build a new one.
     
  5. Oz72RivGS

    Oz72RivGS Member

    Thanks, George! :)

    Why store it... you think a Riv Stage One 'donk' is worth keeping for posterity (2171 built (sold?) for the 1972 model)???
    :confused:

    PS that seven blade/18" fan you sold to me is really top quality!


    :beer
     
  6. GStage1

    GStage1 Always looking for parts!

    Well, you never know what technology will happen to solve your problem. Won't cost anything to store it so save it for "someday"
     
  7. BP_Motorworks

    BP_Motorworks Ragtop Racer

    block looks to be cracked, I had the same problem on a chevy 454 block I bought at a swap meet. My local machine shop fixed it for $90.00 I have not had a problem since.
     
  8. Oz72RivGS

    Oz72RivGS Member

    Thanks, 'BP_Motorworks' !
    Yep, I don't doubt that the actual repair of the crack itself may be low cost - it's the related time/expense I'm concerned with. I should have been clearer in the advice I'm seeking.

    I'm keen to hear an engineer/experienced Buick 455 mechanic type person's opinion on welding or cementing that crack - especially in situ. Pulling it out of the car, pulling apart and then rebuilding all costs big $$$$.
     
  9. 10inchbuick

    10inchbuick Midwest Buick Mafia

    Indy cylinder heads will fix that.I have had them weld the same area on a sbf we are still running this block we have gone 8.20 since the repairs with no problem.They are a little expensive but their work is so nice you forget about the price.
     
  10. 10inchbuick

    10inchbuick Midwest Buick Mafia

    Sorry didn't notice that you were from australia so Indy would be a stretch to say the least.A good welder can fix that if he knows how to work with cast iron.
     

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