Color productio numbers?????

Discussion in 'Color is everything!' started by sgrant2, Jul 16, 2006.

  1. sgrant2

    sgrant2 Well-Known Member

    Color production numbers?????

    Color poduction numbers


    Question I am doing two 67 GS convertibles and was wondering about how popular the colors were. One was original Apple Red and the second car is Burgundy Mist.

    Does the Sloan registry have any info on how many of each color were made?

    I know all is lost for info for 67's

    If this info is available for 68 is there any chance the colors poduction ratios would be similar for a 67?

    Thanks
    Scott
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2006
  2. Mike Trom

    Mike Trom Platinum Level Contributor

    It would be hard to say if color ratios would be the same for each year but here are the top 2 colors from '68 thru '72: Red was/is very popular for convertibles

    68 All GS (Conv only)
    1 = Burnished Saddle (Scarlet Red,16.7% )
    2 = Scarlet Red (Cameo Cream, 10.3%)

    69
    1=Antique Gold (Signal Red, 16.9%)
    2=Verde Green (Polar White, 9.6%)

    70
    1=Burnished Saddle (Fire Red,17.3%)
    2=Bamboo Cream (Burnished Saddle, 15.8%)

    71
    1=Cortez Gold (same, 13.3%)
    2= Bittersweet mist (Fire Red, 12.3%)

    72
    1=Burnished copper (Flame orange, 15.3%)
    2=Flame orange (Burnished copper, 13.2%)

    :beer
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2006
  3. sgrant2

    sgrant2 Well-Known Member

    But what about the percent of each??

    :TU: Thanks for that info but what about the percent of production or each?

    I see there was 15 colors available back then plus a $76 option of custom colors.

    Regal Black A
    Artic White B .
    Saphire Blue D
    Midnight Blue . E .
    Blue Mist F
    Gold Mist . G .
    Green Mist H
    Verde Green . J .
    Aquamarine K
    Shadow Turquoise . L .
    Burgandy Mist N
    Platnium Mist . P .
    Apple Red R
    Champagne Mist . S .
    Ivory T
    If it were an even split then each would get 6.5% of the total.

    If red was the most popular then how much of the total production 20%?

    Where did Burgundy Mist fall in the scheme of popularity?

    Also when the built the cars at the assembly plant did they do red one day then blue the white and so on or were they all mixed together?

    I know Fisher was responsible for the body but did GM Paint the fenders and hood in a separate place and mate them to the fisher body later in the process?

    I know this is a lot of question but any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks
    Scott
     
  4. Mike Trom

    Mike Trom Platinum Level Contributor

    I have updated my original post with % numbers for the convertibles only. I really cannot help with your other questions :Do No:

    :beer
     
  5. sgrant2

    sgrant2 Well-Known Member

    Do I have the only one left?

    Actually, I am trying to figure out how rare of a car the 67 GS Convertible I have that is Burgundy Mist in color.

    Ok let us assume that 68 and 67 color production numbers are close.

    Therefore, the first two most popular colors cover 27% of total convertible production.

    Or 577 67 GS Convertibles were red or white.

    If the remaining colors are produced equally then that would give the remaining 13 color 4.8% production.

    So there were 102 of each of the remaining 13 colors.

    Now there were 1628 Turbo 400 cars or 76%, which leaves 77 Cars.

    Now mine has a power bench seat a rare option. But I would assume all bench seat production was no more than 33% of the GS cars produced. So we are down to 26 cars if all cars had a white interior.

    Now I am really guessing here but I read an article recently about the survivability of the muscle cars produced in the 60s and they put the non-ultra rare cars (Shelby Mustangs, Hemi Cudas) at around 30%.

    So that gets us down to 7.5 cars that may still exist today.


    That is really a stretch and a ton of assuming but I would bet there are under 10 Burgundy Mist 67 GS convertibles out there with a white bench seat interior and with a power bench setup maybe I have the only one.

    Any comments?
     
  6. Duane

    Duane Member

    Yeah,
    I have a comment. I really don't understand what you are getting at. If I am reading my info correctly there were 2,140 1967 GS Convertibles built, so your car would be 1 of 2140. (That's a pretty low number right there.)

    If you want to split those numbers up depending on options then all kinds of cars would have low production numbers due to the number of color/option combinations available, and a bunch may actually be unique.

    I had this same type of conversation with a guy at the 2005 GSCA Nationals. He had a 71 GS 455 coupe that was Green with a Green interior and a Green Vinyl top, and was adament about his car being something like 1 of 12 built. (They built 1,481 GS coupes for 1971.) He refused to listen that his car was 1 of 1,481 and tried to get me to agree with him. Finally after 2 days of this he gave up.
    Duane
     
  7. sgrant2

    sgrant2 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Duane

    I agree it is 1 of 2140.

    I guess i have to much time on my hands and better get back out in the shop and get it finished.




    Thanks
    Scott
     
  8. Mike Trom

    Mike Trom Platinum Level Contributor

    :TU: Like Duane said, if you try and figure out how many GS's were built the same as yours you may find you have the only one but there are others that can do the same by having one more/less option that you have. I really doubt that two '68 GS convertibles were built with the exact same color / options as mine (the more options you have the less likely the chance two cars were built the same) but I have no way to prove that and its not a big deal. Now if you had an SCO paint color that would be something cool.

    Duane,
    1971 GS Coupe
    Verdemist green = 514
    Green bench seat = 348
    Green vinyl top = 693
    I can see how that adds up to 1 of 12 :rolleyes: :Dou: I think that guy needs to buy one of my production total quick reference guides :Brow:

    :beer
     
  9. Duane

    Duane Member

    Mike,
    I am sure this is not the case with Scott, but what the guy at the 2005 GSCA Nats needed was a life! After (2) 15-20 minute conversations with that guy I began to understand that he really "needed" his car to be ultra special. Maybe, in his own mind, he was trying to make up for the fact that it was triple green, who knows?
    I mean the 70 green exterior/interior colors are nice, but that 71-72 green interior color is .......................
    Duane
     
  10. Mike Trom

    Mike Trom Platinum Level Contributor

    Scott,

    Just owning a '67 GS convertible is special enough :TU: You will not see a bunch of them when you go to your local shows and cruise nights and that is one of the nice things about owning a Buick. Its great to see that you are interested to find out more about your car... I am a numbers guy myself and I try and learn everything I can about my car also :grin:

    :beer
     
  11. grannys70skylrk

    grannys70skylrk MORE IDEAS THAN MONEY

    So Mike, what were the least popular colors?
     
  12. Mike Trom

    Mike Trom Platinum Level Contributor

    Its tough to say since there were colors in some years that were introduced during the production year and also some that were discontinued.

    1968 -Olive Gold had the lowest production at 204
    1969- Regal Black was the lowest with 372, Fireglow orange had 306 but that was introduced later in the production year.
    1970-1972 had many colors with less than 10 cars produced and that does not include SCO colors.

    :beer
     
  13. stage-x

    stage-x Then & Now Auto

    Sounds like a bunch of Pontiac rare cars to me :grin:
     
  14. grannys70skylrk

    grannys70skylrk MORE IDEAS THAN MONEY

    Thanks, Mike!
     

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