Crank Swapping Re-Balance Required?

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by MrSony, Nov 20, 2019.

  1. MrSony

    MrSony Well-Known Member

    Got a 71 350, swapping in a crank from another 71 350.

    Any issues balance wise? I doubt the cranks were matched to the rods.
     
  2. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Cranks from every year can be slightly different. Visually measure / look to find any small changes. If going 71 to 71, you should be real close and can replace the slugs in the harmonic balancer exactly the way they are now. Flex plate should work also, unless there are balance clips on it, then swap those over too or remove them if new crank flex plate didn't have them.
    Read up on balancing in the service manual...
     
  3. MrSony

    MrSony Well-Known Member

    Id be using a TA balancer and flexplate. Their flexplates are pioneer I believe.
     
  4. MrSony

    MrSony Well-Known Member

    All I have from the other motor is the crank. My current one is scored enough to need machined but it being so close to thanksgiving I'm kind of on a time crunch.
     
  5. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    Should be just fine. The factory didn't balance each engine separately, they tried to make the parts weigh all the same so they could assemble 500 engines per shift.
     
  6. MrSony

    MrSony Well-Known Member

    It's not an ideal situation, but if by chance I can get away with it, I'm damn sure gonna try.
     
  7. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    You don’t have much to loose, try it. The engine was likely barely balanced by the factory. All they did was stick a few weights in the balancer to reduce vibrations. It’s not like they actually cared to spend any time balancing the engine it was a hack job good for 3500 rpm
     
  8. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    But at the same time balancing could be why my motor has lasted over 25 years banging at 6 grand all the time.
     
  9. MrSony

    MrSony Well-Known Member

    Most likely.
     
  10. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    This is a good point. I do a proper internal balance on my engines but it’s only worth it if you are using high end parts. For a stock rebuild it’s likely good enough.
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2019
  11. MrSony

    MrSony Well-Known Member

    After comparing cranks, it's a no-go. Using the original it is. Should clean up with .010/.010. Casting numbers were the same, visually the same except the holes. Ah well. I suppose it's for the better.
     
  12. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Balance holes in crank throws? Post pics.
     
  13. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    and don't forget my crank came from TA so I do not know what motor or where it came from.
     
  14. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    Buick had the goofiest balance system in the industry, at least for domestic producers. Nevertheless, they balanced every individual engine using the slugs in the damper and offset weight on the flywheel/flexplate. I'm not saying they did it with accuracy. But they did "balance" individual engines.
     
  15. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    If both engines were stock swap the crank and be done with it. It may look different but it will be close enough. Crank kits and other crank swaps have been normal in any engine rebuild with no issues.

    These engines were NOT individually balanced from GM. 99% of the factory balance came when the engineer drew the crankshaft and figured how heavy the counterweights needed to be.
     
  16. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Yup, throw it together. Didn't even worry about it years ago.
     
  17. MrSony

    MrSony Well-Known Member

    I dropped the crank off at the shop, so no pics, but the front most crank throw's hole was about .630 in diameter (digital calipers), and shallower than my other crank which had a .867 diameter hole and was at least an 1/8 deeper.
     
  18. OddfireV6

    OddfireV6 Active Member

    You can always mess with it by putting lead fishing line sinkers in the holes of the balancer and seeing what it does. Just pick a hole, put the weight in it, then rev the engine up and see if it's any smoother or rougher. Move the weight around. If it ran smoothest with no weight, then it's in pretty good balance.
     

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