Edelbrock vs Stock 455 Intake Manifold

Wasn't Booger that guy in "revenge of the nerds" with his finger up his nose? Still want the intake Chris?

 

Yeah, Booger was the guy who asked "What the F* is a frush?". He also played Charles DeMarr in Better off Dead but he'll always be Booger to me

I sure do want that manifold Dave, sorry I didn't call. I found out this weekend that I'm in a wedding in DC fairly soon and I spent all day on the phone saturday getting a booking at a hotel and squaring away transportation and a flight. Sunday I spent most of the day at the rifle club getting my little letter for the Fascists in Boston City hall so that I can have the priveledge of exercising my Rights, and then I spent the rest of the day shooting with my Dad

It might be easier for me to just send you a check for the manifold plus shipping. Work's crazy and I don't know what time I'll still be here any night this week. I'll call you tonight about 8:00 and we can work out some details, if that's a good time to call

 

Booger was also in "Risky Business".

 

All I remember about that film is Rebecca de Mornay

 

Lets not forget Guido the killer pimp!

 

All I have to say about that is I wanted to take a train ride !!!!!


Back to the post in general. I believe the stock air cleaner works just as good as an open element system. Just use a good filter to not restrict the air flow into the motor. You are getting MUCH cooler air into the motor than the heated air in the engine compartment.

JMHO

Mike

 

Problem is that the air rushing over the scoops at speed causes negative pressure and restrict airflow. The bright Buick designers tested it sitting still where of course it worked......I believe they claimed 3% hp increase?

 

Pic of Alum Intake Choke Setup

Hey can anyone post a picture of their Edelbrock Intake w/Rochester Quadrajet Carb choke setup? If you can I would be very appreciative.

 

I never got the stove type choke to work 100% with the Edelbrock esp with the heat passage partially or fully blocked. Electric choke is the way to go IMO.

 

I have heard and agree with the probability of the negative pressure, but feel that the cooler air will compensate and at least equal out. Maybe not the 3% HP gain, but and equalivant exchange to say. And I do not have to carry around an air cleaner for shows...

Mike

 

Ok, Chris Blair...

Ok, Chris and anyone else offended... I apologize! :ball:
I should of said ..."I boogered up"... "MY" car in "MY" opinion,
I didn't say any of my Buick brothers were idiot's
a hack or a jerk! I just felt because I had so much trouble
with all the little details when installing the Performer, that
it was a pain in the butt. When I put it on and drove the
car to the 03 Buick Open the next day and opened the hood
the bak-a-lite, just behind the foam seals was all worn down
because of hood clearance. I was not happy. And the performer
sucks more heat out of the heads and is hotter than the
stock intake. I also had hard starting problems when hot after installing it.
I... also liked trying different aftermarket parts but for
me after trying them and spending all the time and money,
the car always runs better on the street the closer the
car is to stock. Although I do use some aftermarket items
such as...Pertronix, K&N, Turbo-Action shift kit, Crane Cam,
Sealed Power Forged pistons, TA Timing Cover, TA-Down head pipes, MrGasket 8mm (black) plug wires, Torque Tech 2-1/2" mandral bent exhaust system and who knows what else.
I don't think all aftermarket parts are bad for our Buicks but
I do believe that when putting on anything other than stock
the question should be asked " What is the owner of any paticular
vehicle trying to accomplish?" and at what RPM range. Alot of
aftermarket items are sold to uneducated car owners and
not told all the side notes of the part to be installled and they
just have to find out the good old fashion way...by experience.
I tryed 6 camshafts until I finally settled on a mild Crane
218dur. 448lift 112lc cam. I thought a bigger cam would make
the car faster on the street at a certain RPM range but found out the hard way. They would make the car quicker if I set up the whole engine as a package to drag race. But the only person who warned me not to get involved
in all the horsepower cam-intake-header hipe was PDXMIKE but
I didn't listen to him and instead spent a lot of money learning
that my car was much more enjoyable and responsive on the
street the closer I got to stock. My GSX Stage 1 is by no means that
fast (12.90@105.89) but it runs just as good with the stock
parts as it did with headers and a Performer intake.
So again Chris, no offense intended. If anyone is an idiot...
that would be me for not learning from others experience and
knowledge!
Eric :3gears:

 

Interesting?

I don't understand Larry why your car would detonate on 93 with the
iron heads and intake. My car did detonate a tiny bit but I just
turned the timing back and any detonation disappeared.
I have close to 10 to 1 compr. and cleaned up ported
and polished stage 1 heads port matched and maybe that has something
to do with it. It runs on 93 pump gas all day long without
any detonation . My water temp stays between 180 to 195
depending on how hot it is outside. o No:

 

Even my 73 Riv would ping and detonate on 93 unless the timing was backed off to 26 deg total even with new rad and 180 stat.
I've had people say they don't ping/detonate at the track but they apparently couldn't hear it. I could hear it rattle sitting in the stands.

I believe it is more often the cause of rod bearing failure than anything in the oiling system. Detonation pounds the bearings to death.

All hail CAM2! "Only" $4.45 a gallon here still! :beer :3gears:

 

Larry,somewhere I read...

Larry,
Somewhere I read that alum. heads and or intakes suck some of
the neccessary heat out of the combustion chambers that is
needed to make power. And the fellow at TAPerformance (not Mike)
told me that their alum heads make the car act like it has lost
some compression. But I am not sure how one would recover that
power. My car has no alum intake or heads and runs 67 cast iron
ported (Greg Tomlinson) exhaust manifolds and with 3.64 posi
and turbo 400 tranny will run 12.90's @ 105.89. I run a stock
converter and a very mild Crane Cam 218dur 448 lift 112lc. I
have run these times on RWL BF Goodrich radial TA's with a best 60ft
of 1.9's to 2.0's. Why the car runs these E.T.'s ? I don't know... but
it is pretty close to stock. So will alum heads slow my car down?
Or...will cast iron heads make your car faster? I am not sure whats
the difference. I know every combo brings new problems and
solutions. What gears are you running? I sure would like for someone
to speculate on this scanario on our two combos and why the alum.
heads and intake don't increase a persons et/ and top
speed in the 1/4mi. o No:

 

Just out of curiousity, has anyone tried taking the plastic/metal things out of the gs hood scoops so that the air could be sucked into the ram air cleaner without any restrictions. My neighbor use to drive his gs like that. Just wondering if that might give some actual cool air or will the scoop placement kill the ram air effect regardless.

Allen
allioop108@aol.com

 

Ok! Now Iam learning!

I thought you ran 13.20s @101 with the alum. heads, ooops!
Now it will be great to hear how she does with the new heads.
I also... don't run it at the strip very much and as a matter
of fact probably won't again because I am so tired of
always working on that engine. Rebuilt end of last summmer
for the second time. Numbers matching GSX Stage 1's I am
told should stay away from the strip.But it's so much fun!
Iam now using the car for crusing and shows. Its time I
enjoy it on the street.
Keep us posted on your progress and ET's. Its always
fun to know what works and what doesn't.

Sincerely, Eric Nelson :3gears: