EV's Battery issues with current cold snap

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by gsfred, Jan 16, 2024.

  1. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    EXACTLY!
    They DO produce gobs of torque immediately compared to gassers and diesel.
    Then you have scientists and engineers thinking “ Hey, let’s power cars with electric motors”
    I’m ok with that thinking, but all the supporting hardware isn’t working like they planned or thought.
    In the late 70’s early 80’s with the diesel engine, people thought it was a great replacement for gas engines, better fuel economy, diesel was cheaper than gasoline, but as soon as the oil companies caught on “Hey people are buying a lot of diesel fuel, RAISE THE PRICE”
    Plus GM soured the public’s perception of the diesel engine with the Olds diesel.
     
  2. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    Exactly and i'm not a big diesel fan either. Ive had two and unless you need them on a pretty much daily basis they are not worth the money or trouble as well.
     
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  3. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    Well until you make it so the electric is produced with clean sources the car production is with clean sources and so on you havent really helped the environment. As I said once before all we are doing is trading mcdonalds to wendys. Still the same cheap burger just one is square now and you give your money to a different company.
     
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  4. bw1339

    bw1339 Well-Known Member

    I'm a huge diesel fan. The problem with modern diesels is the same as 1970s gas engines. Regulations have robbed them of efficiency and reliability, as well as made everything much more expensive. Everything I own is fully mechanical. I would not own a new diesel.
     
  5. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    well yeah i do like the old mechanical ones but I had a 04 duramax and 05 ctd and both a pos compared to every gas truck Ive had and both where 4x as much to fix and operate. Ill never own another one unless its in something like a 2 ton truck. Life in cold weather alone is enough for me to say no.
     
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  6. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    I like diesels too, for working, they’re brutes, but yes the EPA has neutered those just like gassers!
    I truly feel bad for the trucking industry that has to add to their maintenance schedule for stupid emissions equipment, mostly the DPF.
     
  7. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    As to Diesels - My 6.2 that was the engine that came with the Buchev was an excellent engine. It started well regardless of temperature, ran as smooth as silk, and was as reliable as any engine that I have ever owned. It's only issue was lack of power due to no turbocharger. It had roughly 378 cubic inches and made about 130 horsepower. If it had been in a 3,500 lb. car it would have been awesome, but in a 4,800 plus lb truck, it was a rolling roadblock.
     
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  8. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    speaking of ev my electric bill was double this month. I cant see it going down in the future. Cant imagine with a ev on it.
     
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  9. Chuck Bridges

    Chuck Bridges Well-Known Member

    Back in the mid '80's, I owned a 1980 Datsun Diesel King Cab pickup. It got great mileage, around 50 MPG (Can. ~ 40 US). I would start it up at 6:30 in the morning and it would not be turned off until 7 PM when I got home (I was a contract cable splicer and I used the truck for work). It would sit there, putting along, using around $ 7.00 worth of diesel a day. I loved that truck, but, towards the end, it started looking a little like a flintstone truck. You could see the road below you. I sold it cheaply to my one brother-in-law and he flipped it for a profit. When I sold it, the drivetrain was still solid, not using oil, and still getting 50 MPG. I wish I had kept it, the 1984 Dodge Ram Van was a real lemon.
     
  10. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    be nice if you could get things like that and afford to fill em up now. the slight mpg gain anymore is way offset by the expense of the fuel.
     
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  11. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    Instant torque ~320hp tows like a dream. As long as I'm driving less than 200 miles a day its no different than driving any other car, except its got a full tank every morning and cost me $20 per 1,000 miles in power. Over 200-250 miles a day just takes a bit of planning until the infrastructure catches up.

    Last weekend running errands.
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  12. 66electrafied

    66electrafied Just tossing in my nickel's worth

    The three clowns from Top Gear did a piece on how indestructible a Toyota diesel truck was; - they flooded it, blew it up, put it on top of a building being demo'd and buried it, crushed it, burned it, and the damn thing still started and ran.
    That said, diesels stink; - and until they ban the smaller coal rollers from existence I don't think anyone is getting too serious about climate change. Following behind an old Jetta or a tricked out toy pickup in commuter traffic is painfully stinky. It seems the taller the truck, and the bigger the exhaust pipe outlet, is directly proportional to amount of stink the truck produces and the lack of manhood on the driver. If traffic is really thick a guy almost gets light headed in the blue haze. (heater sucks in the fumes) Up here we have a preponderance of diesel pickups because that's the vehicle of choice for the oil patch. A diesel engine is at its best at a constant speed with no RPM change, - then it is incredibly efficient and clean burning. However, it's the RPM changes that traffic and life brings, that causes smoke as the engine is either catching up or slowing down.
    Bottom line; - the best thing for both the environment and drivability is still the gas ICE-Hybrid.
     
  13. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    My bride used to keep the heater/air conditioner in her van on Recirculate because of all the stinky Diesels out there. That was the one nice thing about my 6.2 Diesel - no turbocharger, no turbo lag = virtually no "coal" and almost no smell.
     
  14. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    I disagree. The high quality brands (Apple/Lenovo) do a MUCH better job of testing their products and designing them to withstand impact and protect the cells.

    This sounds like a junky product. If in fact it was a brand new laptop that caught fire charging.
     
  15. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I really didn't want to post the name of the computer's manufacturer, but the name rhymes with "Bell."
     
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  16. black70buick

    black70buick Well-Known Member

    Wow.

    You all are way off topic.

    Topic = "EV's Battery issues with current cold snap"

    You must have had a magical 6.2 - There was always some smell. My 6.2 was a riot on the highway though, get into that sweet short RPM range and it pulled hard!

    Time to swing this back to EV's Battery issues with current cold snap...


     
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  17. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Saw a news reel on testing EV’s ramming into road barriers and them crashing thru.
    The report said “EV’s too powerful for barriers”
    WTH does the power plant have to do with crashing thru barriers?
    That has to do with the mass of the vehicle, and there are much heavier daily driven vehicles out there heavier than an EV.
    The crash testing they showed obviously destroyed the vehicle.
     
  18. Mike B in SC

    Mike B in SC Well-Known Member

    The article I saw said it was the weight of the vehicle (an EV truck) that was the reason the barriers wouldn’t stop it.
     
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  19. black70buick

    black70buick Well-Known Member

    It's not necessarily about weight. Brushless DC motors used in these machines are powerful! Though there are probably safety systems to cut power on impact, Eddy currents can still exist. Instantaneous torque to crush a barrier.
    Think run away diesel, but only momentarily.
     
  20. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    Safety barriers aren't perfect. There are lots of modern vehicles that are too big or too powerful to be "stopped" by them. Not an EV issue per se.
     

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