Fire Red Paint and good primer

Discussion in 'Color is everything!' started by SA71, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. SA71

    SA71 Steak!

    Will anyone share with me, where to order the fire red paint from?
    I see it on quite a few websites and under various brands, but I would like to know which one(s) are better than others, and the durability. From what I've read so far, and seen so far, there seems to be quite a few different shades, some look quite a bit lighter, others look like a totally different color.
    Also, what brand of primer should be used with it, or works best with it? I see that some people mix and match different brands of primer to paint... Is that because one kind of primer is good but the paint in that same brand is not so good? Or is it the price?
    Thanks for any replies, I appreciate it.

    -Amber
     
  2. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    I find that PPG has the excellent color matches. Are you going with basecoat- clear coat? I used PPG Deltron 2000 on my yellow GSX and it was high quality. PPG Fire Red is code #2189..For primer use what the paint shop recommends. Was your car built in Flint, MI? I believe most Flint built cars used a Gray primer. GMAD plants usually used red primer. Sometimes the primer color effects top color. I had a ralley red Olds 442 and the primer color was gray as well.
     
  3. SA71

    SA71 Steak!

    Thanks! Yes base coat/clear coat, ours was built in the Fremont, CA plant. Is there a way that I could find out online what primer they used there?
     
  4. Doo Wop

    Doo Wop Where were you in '62?

    Fremont was GMAD plant suggesting they would have used red primer, as stated by copperheadgs1
     
  5. SA71

    SA71 Steak!

    That's really helpful, thanks a lot!
     
  6. SA71

    SA71 Steak!

    Does red primer work better with the red paint job? If primer affects the appearance of the paint, does adding more coatings (of paint) help solve that problem?

    Sorry for all the questions!

    I did look for pictures online for fire red Skylarks, some of them looked really brown, others looked really orange, and we don't really want it to appear brown or orange!
     
  7. Opel GS

    Opel GS Dream Up

    Whatever brand paint you choose, use that line for everything - primer, sealer, paint etc.
     
  8. SA71

    SA71 Steak!

    Okay, thanks!
     
  9. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    my car was painted with basf fire red water based + clear. primer & sealer were basf, also.
     
  10. SA71

    SA71 Steak!

    Is it the same car from the picture in your profile? It's a really good shade of red.

    I tried to look at the paint chips on the BASFrefinish site but I had to register and wait for the account to be approved, didn't have any luck finding their paint chips anywhere else, I'm still looking though, maybe I'll find something posted on another site.

    How's your paint holding up? No issues with it chipping, peeling, bubbling?
     
  11. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Please, PLEASE do not judge a color that you may choose for your car based on what you see in digital pictures/images from your computer monitor. DO NOT pick a color by looking at paint chips ONLINE. There are so many ways this can be wrong it's unbelievable.

    Get a color sample and spray it. See if you like it WITH YOUR OWN EYES. You might be amazed at how different the color is in reality compared to what you see on your computer's monitor.

    Devon
     
  12. SteeveeDee

    SteeveeDee Orange Acres

    That's no joke. Find a paint store and look at the chips. Even then, the chip is only about 1/4 of a square inch. But reliable. At least if you know the correct paint code, you will get that color. The internet doesn't have color control over what gets posted.
     
  13. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    Below is very good advice. Many things can affect color tint.
    BASF is a very good paint and as with most other paint companies you can get about any factory color in them.
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    Your best bet is to look on car lots for the color red that you like and get the paint code and have that mixed buy whatever pant company that you decide to use.
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  14. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    i was shown 2 shades/mixes of the basf fire red painted on sample boards by the bodyshop. i then selected the the current colour. i believe that i have the colour mix codes if u are interested.
    when u are checking/viewing the paint chip samples, take them outside and view in the sunlight. remember, the chip sample will probably not totally match to the actually mix.
     
  15. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

  16. SA71

    SA71 Steak!

    That's pretty much what I was thinking of doing, but I need to be able to get a few different shades and learn how to mix, and the primer also, I have all the spray equipment, but I need to watch the budget while doing so... I know that color on the monitor and on various websites is dodgy, but when I binged "Fire Red Skylark" there was so many variations that really show that one person's fire red was really different from another person's fire red... It made me kind of scared! Haha!

    ***Added: I forgot to say thank you, I appreciate your advice. :)

    -Amber

    ---------- Post added at 06:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:52 PM ----------

    Thanks! We did talk about the paint and have decided that it doesn't make a lot of sense to try and keep the outside fire red if it turns out to be not quite what we are looking for, because we are switching the interior to black, it really doesn't keep it original.

    We need to find a few shades of red and just try it out before we buy it in bulk for the full paint job.

    -Amber

    ---------- Post added at 06:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:55 PM ----------

    Thanks! I did look on the BASF site and waiting for an approval so I can see their color chips, it said I had to register before I can search their products and such.

     

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