Heres an odd issue on the GSX...

Discussion in 'Sparky's corner' started by CJay, Jun 10, 2022.

  1. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Go to put the X into reverse to turn the key off. With the car off, the trans in reverse and my foot on the brake, the GEN light is on. Only comes on when the shifter makes the column hit its "stop". If you kinda move the shifter slightly, the light turns off. And only when your foots on the brake!

    I disconnect the directionals and the issue goes away. Im gonna try hitting the parts dept for a good used switch and just plug it in under the dash and see. Curious to see why a mechanical movement of the column and shifter would make a light come on. Unless there is a chaffed wire maybe?

    Now its gonna kill me all day until I come back home and rip it apart!
     
  2. 72STAGE1

    72STAGE1 STAGE 1 & 2

    The ignition switch in the column, not the key but the slider down lower in the column is worn.
     
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  3. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Ok, I narrowed it down after unplugging/ disconnecting things. It's in the tail light harness. I plug a known good harness in and everything is fine. So there's something wonky with the one in there.

    Tomorrow's project is to swap it out. I'm going to try and figure out what's up with the original. Bad socket, bad ground? At least I figured it out. Now to put the car back together!
     
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  4. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    Everytime I've fixed a wierdo "how the hell can this be?" electrical problem like that, it's always been a ground issue.
     
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  5. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    I second the ground wonkies.
     
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  6. Fred Hickey

    Fred Hickey Founders Club Member

    In my experience (very non Buick), with cars, trucks, trailers, equipment, it’s almost always the ground. Only to be out done by boats, where it’s always the ground (no chassis).
     
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  7. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Aaaaand......drum roll please.......


    Wait for it......



    It was the ground! Lol
     
  8. derek244

    derek244 Gold Level Contributor

    I searched for what seemed like years before I found my ground issue. Had an answer almost instantly from this board.
     
  9. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Since all electricicles use the body, frame, bumpers, chassis or "anything the rust like to eat" as the common path to one side of the battery, and almost everything has power, that is interrupted by a switch in the closed position to function*, anytime any ground is interrupted, the current will seek path through the other areas of the wiring and create "another switch" condition in the process.

    This makes for some very un-fuuny "jokes on you" games by yer car.


    *name one head scratcher item, that is not negative ground, but positive grounded on the car...

     
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  10. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    A fuel injector? Its not constant +12v, the ecm breaks the ground to fire it
     
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  11. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Nope. Stock/OEM equipment, on most carhicles. (GM, not sure of them "other" brandz...)
     
  12. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    I may be reading this out of context, but fuel injectors , at least factory GM, have constant 12v with ignition on and the ecm supplies the ground to fire the injector.
     
  13. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Autocorrect got me combined with my need for reading glasses. I meant to write constant..
     
  14. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    I hate when that happens.:)
     
  15. FLGS400

    FLGS400 Gold Level Contributor

    Glove compartment light?
     
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  16. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    The secondary side of the ignition coil.
     
  17. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Winner. :)

    Yep, the power is to the bulb outer base (cap), and the ground is made through the bulb's contact.

    (for those using LED, it needs to be bridge rectified type to work)
     
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  18. FLGS400

    FLGS400 Gold Level Contributor

    That is exactly what came to mind! I put a small LED light panel in the glove compartment that works off the switch. I used a bulb adapter and just had to reverse the wires to the light panel to make it work.
     
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