How To Fit A Quarter Piece

Discussion in 'Color is everything!' started by Murphy, Mar 14, 2006.

  1. Murphy

    Murphy Just Getting Started

    What would be the best way to fit these together. Should I try to butt weld them, or flange them together. Right now, the new piece is @ 1" or more longer than needed so I can fit them as needed.
    Thanks,
    Dan
     

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  2. Daves69

    Daves69 Too many cars too work on

    Dan,

    I would reccomend butt welding together. First of all the body lines will match better. Second trying to flange the part will be difficult. Good luck with your project.

    Dave
     
  3. 67ProstreetKid

    67ProstreetKid 2 Buicks so far...

    For restoration purposes, butt welding would be ideal, it will let u refinish both sides of the quarter to make the repair invisible. But, it will be more time consuming. Using a Lap weld (flanging the panel) is much easier but will leave evidence on the inside of the panel. A trick i use to butt weld panels (besides spedin extra time to cut both pieces perfect) is using a copper backer on the backside of the panel, it won't melt or stick to the panel or the weld and keeps u from blowin holes through on the joint... also works good for filling some rust holes :Brow: . Which ever u choose remember that a lil time here saves lots more time later... Good Luck. :beer
     
  4. GSXER

    GSXER Well-Known Member

    Should I try to butt weld them, or flange them together

    If you have to try ..you will be in for a long day or week. If you have never done it I would not attempt to do it on that section . Overlap or flange will be more forgiving.
     
  5. RACEBUICKS

    RACEBUICKS Midwest Buick Mafia

    You will never get the "flange" idea to work. A rounded panel will flatten out. I would definatley over lap it (1/2 inch will do) . thin both half with a smaller grinder alittle so that it wont bulge and then spot weld it every so often so the panel wont warp, and continue to weld it till its solid letting it cool as much time needed (to keep the warping down) Then a light grind in the inside and use a 2 part epoxy style seam sealer to smooth up the inside and it will disappear under the spatter paint. Peace of cake, I did it to a 69 myself a couple years ago. If you try to "butt" weld it the metal will be weak and the repair may not last possibly cracking out later. I have seen this also after 22 years in the bodyshop business.
     
  6. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    butt weld only. if u overlap, then the next problem u will have is rustin from the inside out.
     
  7. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    butt weld only. if u overlap, then the next problem u will have is rusting from the inside out.
     
  8. RACEBUICKS

    RACEBUICKS Midwest Buick Mafia


    If the metal is correctly prepped this will not happen
     
  9. Murphy

    Murphy Just Getting Started

    I'm not worried about making this into a show car. I would love to, but it would take me forever to get that done. The car needs a complete frame off restoration for that. I don't have the time, money or facilities to do that kind of work (actually a body swap would work best for this car, but that's questionable at best). I'm just trying to fix it as best I can before I paint it. I must admit though, there has been a lot more bondo than I originally thought there was. The front fenders were no suprise. The doors were a little more than expected, but not much. The quarters were a big suprise, much more than expected. I'll post some pictures later of some spots just covered with 1/2" of bondo over a fiberglass patch to cover the rust. Now the rust is eating away under the fiberglass. So the fiberglass has nothing to attach to. I have never butt welded before. Would hate to ruin these pieces trying to get them right. I thought about flanging them as I have done that before. At least I know I can do that without messing it up too much. I know the butt welds would be much better, but.... Thanks for the suggestions. I look it over and see what I can do with it.
    Dan :3gears:
     
  10. Murphy

    Murphy Just Getting Started

    Here are a few pictures.
    Dan
     

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  11. Murphy

    Murphy Just Getting Started

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