Is a 65 Impala SS 409 4 speed rare or desirable?

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by cjp69, Jul 12, 2004.

  1. Specman

    Specman Well-Known Member

    If he doesnt someone else will. If the pedigree is correct and documented this is a winner. Cant go wrong at 25k
     
  2. Specman

    Specman Well-Known Member

    Re: 409

    Beach Boys:TU:
     
  3. Jan Garwig

    Jan Garwig MEMBER

    Never try to convince Grumpy Jenkins that the 409 was not tunable. In 1963, he worked for AAron Smith Chev in York, Pa. He was responsible for tuning the car known as "The Old Reliable" driven by Dave Strickler. That was one bad a$$ car as was the ones owned by Don Nicholson and Malcom Duram just to mention a few. Mine was a 63 Bel Air 409 4 spd post car with NO options. I remember, I picked it up on a Friday , changed the gears Friday night and hit the drag strip Sat night. Tunable? Yes, every day !!!!!!! Slicks? NO! Just Atlas Bucrons if anyone remembers them.

    Jan Garwig
     
  4. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    buy it if the provinance is correct !
     
  5. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    What times were you running Jan?
     
  6. Yardley

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  7. Yardley

    Yardley Club Jackass

    409 is on LITTLE DEUCE COUPE
    The Beach Boys
    Producer: Brian Wilson
    Released October 7, 1963
    Capitol Records T & ST-1998
    Album Charted: 11/9/63
    Highest album chart position: 4
    Album Spent 46 weeks on the charts
     
  8. cjp69

    cjp69 Gold Level Contributor

    Cool, thanks Yardley!
     
  9. Stagedcoach71

    Stagedcoach71 Well-Known Member

    I always wondered if the revving engine on the record is actually a 409.
     
  10. Brian Stefina

    Brian Stefina Well-Known Member

    Nope.......a 327.

    I wish someone would tell Charlie Lombardi the cylinder combustion chamber is a hinderance......

    His 409 425hp Impala clicked off a 13.15 @ 104mph during Saturday shootouts at the June Pure Stock Drags.

    Charlie's best was 13.38 @ 103(?) on Friday and my 427 425hp Marauder ran a 13.30 @ 106mph on Friday (Sat was out due to broken trans)

    I've got more power but I'm not running away from that combustion chamber that doesn't respond well. :laugh:
     
  11. wmcmanis

    wmcmanis Work in Progress

    The first fast car I was ever in was a 63 Biscayne with a four speed, dual quad 409. It belonged to a friend of my fathers and he took us for a ride in it.

    I could remember how squirrelly it felt when he launched it
    and being just a little scared as the speedometer approached 100 mph.

    It was a former drag car and through the cheap green repaint you could still read the cars name Insane Biscayne.

    I was 9 years old and hooked for life.:Brow:
     
  12. Col. Kurtz

    Col. Kurtz Member

    Sounds like a keeper.
    I had a 63 Impala 409 years ago.
    It is one I should have kept but who knew what they would be worth.
    If memory serves the 348 had the same design heads and valve covers. I would check the casting numbers to be sure your getting the real deal.
    Swapping out a 348 for a blown 409 was a common used car trick back in the day.
    I also think Chevy cast an X in the front of the block on the driver side.
    Good luck with it..

    Did I ever tell you about my 41 Willy's Coupe 409 power. Now that was a ride........
     
  13. Jan Garwig

    Jan Garwig MEMBER

    My 409 would run consistant low 13's in A/S fashion with 4:56 gears. It was very difficult to hook up and launch was slow with Bucrons. When we were forced into A/FX we cheated a little more and would run mid to low 12's with traction still being a problem. Cheating was so rampant that the A/FX class was created and the weight to H/P classes were changed to bracket racing as we know it today. All fast 409's that I know of were really 427's with "cheater cams" that we changed factory markings. Oh, what fun it was while it lasted. I finally had to give in and buy a Savoy with a 426. If you couldn't beat them, you had to join them. The 409 was a real thrill in its day but times do change.

    Jan Garwig
     
  14. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    Cool - thanks!
     

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