Is this the correct shift handle for a '69 car?

I bought new Hurst competiton plus shifter about four years ago from Jegs. I told them my car was a '69 GTO [OK I lied] :laugh:

In any case, the handle I got did not look right and I called them and asked about it. They said "Oh we don't have a listing for a '69, so we sent you a '66". That made no sense to me at all. I looked it up myself, sure enough here's all they list for a GTO:

Model: 1964-66 GTO/Tempest/Lemans
Console: Without
Transmission: Muncie
Installation Kit: #530-373-3163



At any rate, the handle I have looks like this:



I know this stick is wrong for my car. I'm wondering if they offer the "right" one? [or something at least close?]

 

Indian shifter

factory shifters have a round handle not flat like the one shown.I may be wrong .what you have is a bench seat no console handle.

 

it was just a little white one......

Mike, why don't you try over at Team Chevelle www.chevelles.com/

You can always tell them it's for a 69 Chevelle :laugh:

:3gears:

 

Olds factory shifters did not have holes drilled in them for attachment. They snapped into place with spring steel retainers in the shifter body. And are a real PITA to get out.

 

Thanks guys,

I knew that the original handle did not bolt on, but I'd like to think you could get a later bolt on one that would look the same as the original once the boot was installed.

I was just wondering if anyone else ever replaced their worn out original Hurst shifter with a new one and was able to match the original style handle?

 

I can't pass this up. Don't go to the Chevelle site. They used those wonderful "muncie" shifters. :laugh: Also the rods are different on aftermarket than factory. One has the adjuster on the shifter lever end and the other has the adjuster on the transmission lever end. Don't remember which is which. There is a guy that does them. Here is his web site and it ain't cheap.

http://www.precisionpontiac.com/

 

Thanks,
I'll check it out.

 

Guys,

Here's what the correct handle that I need looks like:




The problem is, it seems that these were never available in non O.E. bolt on handles.

Next question,
OK, maybe it's a dumb question but here goes anyway. :laugh:

Has anyone ever sawed one of these off, and welded it to the base of a bolt on handle and had it not break off later? p Can this be done successfully?

 

Yes. that has been done before. My Dad had a Chevy Luv Truck with a V-6, Muncie trans and a shortened pistol grip shifter ............

 

Above interior pic of '70 Judge shows an oem '70-72 GTO bucket seat hurst shifter, the '68-69 version is more upright.

Welded handles... Have had quite a few oem application Hurst parts type shifters that have previously been cut & welded on, heated up & bent :af: , etc. Other than sloppy job in welding, all were together as one with flat lower attachment piece.

Getting ready to go through this again, trying to find a '68-69 Pontiac A-body bucket seat 3 spd shifter. Need the chrome handle out of one (even if heavily pitted), so similiar handle can be patterned, cloned, & produiced handles used in TKO500- TKO600 conversions.

Anyone having a loose shifter fitting the bill, feel free & PM.
:3gears:
Roger

 

welding the shifter

looks very similar to the 68 - 69 mopar B body handle :3gears:

mike , no need to cut and weld , just drill 2 holes in the part that slides in , the little hole at the top that locks the handle in i'm pretty sure is in the right place for the top bolt , the mopar guys do it to their handles all the time ... :spank:

 

speaking of hurst shifters ...

questions for the Olds guys .

i have a hurst flat bar handle , actually the whole shifter , it says hurst and 442 on the handle , i bought way back when i had a ... cough cough ... 56 chevy , what year is it for and are they hard to find ?

 

John:

Those Hurst 442 handles were used from 1966 through the 70's with many variations in the shape (bench seat, bucket seat). The Cutlasses in the same years used the same handles except without the 442 on it. All were Hurst shifters with slide in handles. The 66-69 were straight, but the 70 -72 had a bend in it to place the handle vertically and allow for the 7 degree rotation of the trans to the bellhousing. Not sure what they did in 73-75 as far as shape and bends, but I'm sure they followed the same lettering on the handles.

NO Hurst Olds were ever built on line with 4 speeds. All were automatics. Probably a few "oddballs" out there that someone converted or one of the prototype cars that were built before the online build (like the 69 Hurst Convertibles).

Hope that helps.

 

The handle in my Merc is a stock one mounted to a comp plus shifter. I had to cut the shifter down where the Hurst handle bolts to it, weld a plate to it and clearance the weld to the shifter housing for proper operation. Then bolt the stock handle to the new plate.

I'm not gentle with it and it has held up so far.... :TU:

 

Thanks Brian.

That's what I had in mind.

 

Talk to Pete @ Precision Pontiac as mentioned in previous post. I had the shifter lever you want but used it on my Buick- Pete rebuilt it with the correct 70 Buick handle and kept the old stick. I like the Pontiac trunion and bushing system a little better than the springs Buick used. Anyway, Pete is the man, knows way more about this and was generous with his knowledge! He rebuilds but also has parts especially for Pontiacs. :beer

 

thanks dave , this one seems to be straight up out of the box and has a bend in it , it looks similar to the aftermarket one in mikes attached photo .

 

CHEATER :laugh:

 

I never thought I'd have to defend Brian's honor, but

:Smarty: Manual Transmissions: The transmission must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. 3-speeds may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available. after-market H-pattern shifters are allowed if no modifications to the floorpan are necessary. Line locks are not allowed. Scattershields are okay. :Smarty:

 

Cheat, cheat, cheat....

:laugh: :laugh:

Thanks Donny.

Yep, and the Vette was a Hurst comp, with a stock handle also.

I had to make a mounting plate to lower the shifter for correct boot height on that one.

Both cars had less than desirable stock shifters.......hey, that's the rules. :TU: