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Discussion in 'The "Other" Bench' started by Casey Marks, Jul 4, 2008.

  1. Casey Marks

    Casey Marks Res Ipsa Loquitur

    Hasn't this been done before ?

    If I choose to lose 2 MPG by going 70, AND PAYING for the fuel I'm using, then who the hell is this antique from Virginia to tell me that I can't ??

    Dickhead ....... :af:

    Lower the National Speed Limit
     
  2. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    While what most of this guy's studies show are somewhat true, even though there are more vehicles on the road today than there was in 1974, how many of those cars were 400-455 cubic inch powered 5000lbs luxo barges?
    And,
    How many of those 1974 vehicles had 4 cyl or 6 cyl engines?
    How many of those 1974 vehicles had OVERDRIVE trans? The average car today traveling at 75-80mph is turning less rpm's than a 1974 vehicle was while going 45mph:Smarty:
     
  3. RACEBUICKS

    RACEBUICKS Midwest Buick Mafia

    THere was also a study right after the speed limit went back up that showed we had even fewer deaths because of air bags, tires and braking were improved tremendously. ALong with that most cars after the 55 speeds were made to fold so that they could have impact better to preserve the passenger compartments. I beleive it was like 20 % less deaths in wrecks and the speed was 70 vs 55. Better tires and brakes and air bags (or just better cars in general) = less deaths..... Sure you might get better milege but who wants to be on the road for an extra 3 hours to go to the same location....
     
  4. TheBuickNut

    TheBuickNut Well-Known Member

    sounds like more gov't BS
     
  5. Dave H

    Dave H Well-Known Member

    Probably the same guys that have that driving style that gets all that mega-mileage that they showed on NBC (or MSNBC...who cares?) that can get you a ticket or maybe killed if you're the only one doing it. Brilliant.....coast through stop signs, tailgate big trucks, shut off the key when coasting down.....


    Speed doesn't kill anywhere near as much as relative speed. How can you feel safe in your shitbox hybrid going 55 when the semi's and SUV's are passing you on the right and left at about 80?

    Same goes for gas mileage. If the car is set up for cruising at 70, it doesn't necessarily get better mileage at 55. Maybe here in Michigan or other fly over flatlands, but go to hilly places and hold your speed to 55 going down the hills, and try to keep it at 55 going up the hills........

    See our Lady Guv, Jen-Jen, is making a big deal of it now, too. Guess she has time for that now that she's solved all the other problems in Michigan.........
     
  6. Truzi

    Truzi Perpetual Student

    Didn't the speed limits start going up again partly because, after the states met all the federal rules for highway funds (like speed limits), the feds still didn't give them the money?
     
  7. hodgesgi

    hodgesgi Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I heard that horse crap too, only I was too busy driving my 500 miles a freaking day, to call my elected idiot and say no. These A-holes have no idea about mileage or safety. How damned safe am I, when I am now forced to be on the road for 2 more hours each day? Senator Warner is a $hit for brains socialist who has never done an honest day's work in his life, even if you count all of his work as a prostitute for the state of VA. If any of these jerk-offs had as much intelligence as an ordinary house plant, they would notice that vehicle speed and miles traveled are both dropping off. And they should be proud of this trend too, because it has been their overwhelming mismanagement that has caused speed and miles traveled to drop, due to the $4-$5 / gallon fuel crisis that we are now faced with. Senator Warner: Hey numb nuts, you've already destroyed our economy with your "good ideas" to this point, why not take a rest.
    Yeah I'm pissed
     
  8. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    All aircraft operate under the same principles. If you slow the airliners fron 450 knots to 200 knots true airspeed they will save a lot of fuel too. But I suppose he might not go for that.

    Email Senator John Warner Repub from Virgina and let him know how you feel about his idea. I did. FYI he is retiring after this term.

    http://warner.senate.gov/public/
     
  9. pegleg

    pegleg Well-Known Member

    FYI he is retiring after this term.

    His brain retired two terms ago. This is one of the clowns who can't figure out why the conservatives are upset with him. I could explain it to the nitwit, but I'd miss Stanton, they wouldn't let me out of my cell.:Smarty:
     
  10. Mister T

    Mister T Just truckin' around

    From the linked story:

    "Given the significant increase in the number of vehicles on America's highway system from 1974 to 2008, one could assume that the amount of fuel that could be conserved today is far greater," Warner wrote Bodman.

    This certainly sounds like solid scientific research to me.:puzzled: :puzzled: (bold type added by me)

    I would support a lower limit of say 65, as it would help to alleviate the speed differential between cars and large trucks, which will probably soon be governed to 65 anyway.
     
  11. carbineone

    carbineone Well-Known Member

    I really do not care what the speed limit is,I drive my little Diesel powered Escort 50 to 55 get around 50 to the gallon...If you want to drive 80 thats up to the guy paying for the fuel..I realize me driving this little car and driving slow is not going to lower the price of fuel one bit for you guys but it will keep more money in my pocket anyway and keep it away from the crooks...I have only put about 150 miles on the 65 this year,yes I would like to drive it more but I will not contribute to millionaires any more than I have to........
     
  12. Madcat455

    Madcat455 Need..more... AMMO!!!

    I like to F with people who agree with that...

    I've been able to, and I kid you not, stump 5 people who agree with going slower to conserve fuel.. by countering:

    "but going 55 instead of 70 will increase the total driving time.. therby using more fuel than you would've used by going faster and getting there sooner"


    You should see the looks on their faces as they try to ponder that one... It's amazing how many people who jump on this don't really "KNOW" what MPG means...lol.

    One guy actually changed his stance... because I was right:pp :pp I really need to learn to STFU sometimes:laugh:


    On my trip from FL to GA and back to FL yesterday.... I was getting 24-25mpg in the van regardless if I was going 75, 90, 80 on the way back.. nothing changed it. I didn't try 55... as I value my life:eek2: (55 on the Atl bypass... yeah right...LMAO!!! There were spots I hit 100 and was getting run up on by Semi's)

    It didn't matter... nothing I did changed my MPG more than 1. But I can't see 55 giving me any kind of a gain that's worth offsetting the extra drive time. 700mi @ 70 = 10hrs.... 700mi @ 55 = 12.75hrs (which = not a chance in HE!!)
     
  13. bobc455

    bobc455 Well-Known Member

    I do NOT support the lower speed limit (for a bunch of reasons), but remember that the more fuel YOU use, the higher MY cost of fuel also (in a limited supply situation, such as the current one- real or imagined).

    People that think "what do they care, I'm paying for the gas" don't realize that higher consumption = higher cost for EVERYONE.

    -BC
     
  14. 71customConv

    71customConv Platinum Level Contributor

    The cars today are designed and geared for 70mph. My brother has a 07 Porsche Cayman. He got 28.5mpg on a 2000 mile trip to Steamboat and back. That is a car that has 265hp and will go 150mph.

    Hey Madcat. Your thought is incorrect. When you are dealing in MPG. Time is not a function. If you get 50 mpg at 50 mph it will take 1 gallon to go 50 miles and take one hour. If you get 25mpg at 100mph it will take 2 gallons to go 50 miles but only take 30 minutes. Again, time is not a factor MPG.

    I wouldn't use your argument on anyone with an IQ above 120.
     
  15. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia

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  16. Madcat455

    Madcat455 Need..more... AMMO!!!


    "I" know that... my point is that these idiots that like to jump on bandwagons for whatever reasons... don't even bother to learn.

    I'm sure they'll know I was F'n with them after they look it up:pp and hopefully they'll come to their senses after some actual research... not just swinging off of some politicians sack:rant:
     
  17. doug adkins

    doug adkins love my Buicks

    for you that didn't experiance 55mph, its so Damn slow that people fall asleep at the wheel. people would drive in the left & right lane at 55 and not let you pass. back then it was a shortage of gas not price. The best thing to do is show the world we are Drilling our own oil. CONGRESS CAUSED THIS.
    Email your Congress person tell them to start drilling, more Nuke Power, allow more Refineries. We are buying our fuel from people who hate:blast: us.:rant:
     
  18. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia

    AMEN BROTHER!!!
     
  19. pegleg

    pegleg Well-Known Member

    Madcat,
    Excellent!! Actually in terms of dollars per hour you are correct, up to a point and depending what the vehicle is. My Aerodynamic F150 gets real bad, real fast after 65 or so.:laugh:
     
  20. fjr340gts

    fjr340gts Grocery Getter

    Wow Frank. You used "aerodynamic" and "F150" in the same sentence! :laugh: :laugh: That's like saying "fast" and "340" in the same breath!:beers2:
     

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