Guys c,mon,this is not just a safety issue only,just want to heat the tires on the 4-speed cars,without going through 15 motions.Maybe we should have a participant vote,just for curiousity sakes.
Before you do a vote I thing Dan Jensen needs to be consulted. If the rules aren't going to change than we are wasting time. I don't want to be on the negative but it is his decision. Jim
Shouldn't race at the track with coolant. Big cleanup problem. Use water. Sell hot water for the showers at the track.
Good for you!!!!!!! GLAD THATS WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR!!!! Next time, I will leave all the tires loose, oil filter loose, make a gas leak under the car and let the exhaust drag the ground, fix the gas pedal so it sticks wide open, tell her to turn the key all the way off so the steering wheel locks and she can't steer, oh yea! drain brake fluid. WOW IT TAKES ALL KINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't Even know what we are talking about here as far as a line lock is conserned. A good burn out is an art, and I thought that if you didn't have good brakes, thats what the sand and trees were for at the end of the tracko No:
I'm with you on this one,Benoit. It is an art and Linelock should be left off a "pure stock" car. The less tech the better.........makes you appreciate a great pass! Just sidestep at 6grand in second gear. Gives you lots of time play with the pedals to keep everything under control. I've been practicin' the fine art of "heatin 'em up" on my yeller 69 Shuvell. Casey and crew will tell ya all about it!
Judging by the cap locks, I don't think my intended light hearted tone came through to everyone on this post. So we're done.
Were not done yet rdI, my Canadian friend. Any one who wants to be safe should take their car to a car show and talk about it. (How fast it goes, what they have done to it etc) But if you want to have some real fun, bring it to the drags and BEAT IT !!!!!!! No guts no glory!!!!:3gears:
Line lock Well--- My car is prone to violent wheel hop doing a brake torque.. So I have to just dust the tires in a 2nd or 3rd gear burnout. Line lock means traction--Something I rarely have ! - Means me faster-- Hmmmm. Ok I like. As for broomsticks, Bennoitment (is that like Kasey Y ) ,curley shuffle or what- I don't know???? Reason for it Safety?? I think your fishin, but the water is to cold!!
This is pure stock, right? Line lock makes it too easy. If doing a smokey burnout compromises your safety then don't do it or adjust your brakes. I vote no on line locks. I think we should be running stock exhaust systems, too. No X pipes. As far as ignition goes, I think the electronic ignition improves the reliability of your car not the performance. So I think it is OK to have it.
Wow...Talk about controversy over a statement. Being that I made the statement let me explain where I was coming from. I do believe (In my mind)that it is for safetys sake. Maybe someone out there needs to climb into my car with me and teach me how to heat the tires adaquatley before staging the car. My brakes are adjusted equally on all four corners (just pre contact which is better for stopping at the end of the track). I've tried to do a more robust burnout by popping the clutch and manipulating the brakes to keep the car as stationary as possilble. I usually end up going every which way but straight. That is not safe for me or the poor guy staging the cars. Maybe I'll try a broom handle, That way I'll have something in the car to throw out the window at the competition if they start to pass me:Brow:
I fall on the side of the minority. No line locks. I have raced 4spds at the track since I was 16. It really is simple, certianly more simple than rubbing Beniotment, gear changes, broomsticks, consulting the magic 8 ball, checking wind directions, reverse, double clicking bulbs, ray:ing , skwerming up to the line and all other things. Leave the multi level process to a Professional tire butcher such as Beniot.:3gears: Plus Beniotment gets expensive for the uninitiated. Very simply put, rev it up high enough to certianly spin the tires, drop the clutch quickly (don't drop it as you do not want to break things), move left foot to brake pedal and as soon as the car is stopped back off the brakes until they just hold the car in place so you do not super heat the rears. While doing this judiciously apply the long skinny pedal. My car rarely moves even 12 inches in the transition from clutch to brake. The other way for those of us that have SCCA training you can heel/toe the brake and gas. I still find it easier to simply use the left foot for all the heavy lifting. Set the rear brakes up a touch softer than the fronts and you are there. The Judge which is my worst car due to weight (4000+), speed (115+ on regular temp days), and inferior GM 4 wheel manual drums (Mother Mopar made much better drums) can do this time and again with no loss at the end of the track. I have made as many as 7 passes in an hour with no effect. Again that is manual drums at a solid speed and high weight factor. Manual shift guys at least have the advantage of getting better compression braking from their cars if the brakes ever do fail, not that I want to test that theory and I certianly do desire to never be introduced to the Kitty Litter at the end of the track. Or the corn field at the end of our local track. I do let the motor and the gears lightly aid me in stopping everytime and that may be why my brakes never get overly hot. Put me down as a no vote. JP practice a little more and you will find the sweet spot. It is not to hard. I suggest going to Casey's house, he has the perfect practice pad. Plus it adds the motivation of having several penalties for a missed applied application. You hit the house, garage or fence. Great motivation to get it right the first time.:idea2: Mark
I am a no as well (even though the back brakes hold my threefidee's power back for low impact burnouts) uzzled:
