Not so much a kill as a shock and awe of the insane low-speed torque the big Buick's are so famous for. Good friend of mine drives an early 2000's camaro, pretty nice car for what it is. Ls1, some bolt ons, we both figure about 400 hp at the flywheel. He's helped now and then on getting the 455 swapped into the cutlass, so he knows what it is, and what it is capable of. In the real world, he would probably outrun me, with my 2.29 rear gears, stock exhaust manifolds, converter, and rally wheels with cheap skinny tires. We were horsing around in a rural area, and he slows to about 15 with his window down to say something to me. I rolled up beside him, idling along about the same speed, and leaned hard on it. His face was priceless as the great white grandma barge set sail past him, sideways, tire smoke rolling, at 3000 rpm. He's not making any power yet at that speed in his camaro, yet that Buick torque will toss a 3500 lb car around like a paper bag in a windstorm. Short of a diesel powered hd truck, the torque these engines produce is unparalleled. It only took one for me to understand why you guys are so crazy about them, and it's done the same to me.