Hard to believe that our elected officials thought that NAFTA was a good idea. Watch out, Hillary is running for Pres, and we already know she's in bed with China:Smarty:
I thought for sure you meant "hair bands".... like Poison, Winger, Skid Row, Cinderella... etc... :bla:
Hair Bands anyone ?? dude, the last thing i need to be imagining is a Chink version of Def Leppard. Hard to believe that our elected officials thought that NAFTA was a good idea. you're a little behind the curve on that one Tom. NAFTA has absolutely nothing to do with Chinese or any other non-American continent trade ( being the North American Free Trade Agreement, ya see ). no, the China trade problem goes back to Kissinger/Nixon normalizing relations with China and getting them Most Favored Nation trading status.
Ah yes,.....the House of Hair NOW CRANK IT UP :laugh: Seriously though, recyled condoms.uzzled: uzzled:
So much China bashing all the time. Of course I'm biased because I lived in Asia for over ten years. Having said that, put yourself in their shoes. How easy is it to govern 1.3 billion people with land mass roughly twice as big as USA? Technology for tax collection and regulatory enforcement is in my opinion about equal to the USA in the 1930s. Mostly manual. In another thread a couple days ago someone said Chinese want to take over the world. Personally I think that's nonsense. Chinese have enough problems ruling their own area and could care less about ruling the world. They have a strong view about what their area consists of which includes Taiwan and the west seems to extrapolate that when it is more likely no more than that. I would go so far as to say PRC government policy is a bit racist and defensive, rather than offensive, again with Taiwan being the exception. Taiwan being the rough equivalent as if Gen. Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis had escaped to Long Island with a band of confederates and set up a different government there. The USA would still think of it as our territory no matter how many years it was independently operated with help from France and UK, for example. They do have Nuclear weapons. I see them mainly as defensive from their point of view. After all, they were invaded by USA and European powers in the 1910s, and by Japan in the 1930s with thousands of citizens killed, lots of valuable property and historical relics stolen. USA is incredibly lucky that is has never happened to us in over 225 years, unless you want to count a couple bombings in 1941 and 2001. In those cases, although tragic, there were no invading soldiers on the ground. They don't like N Korea having nuclear weapons any more than USA does. They know Kim is nuts. They're rational people. The citizens I know think the USA is a great place, and hope China can become more like that. The Government finally decided to dig themselves out of the poverty that resulted from Mao's policies, and that means growing exports/imports into the worldwide economy. Take it as a threat if you want to, but consider the fact that the USA people and our businesses have taken it for granted for 50 years or more that we could do that and been doing it as aggressively as they could. Free trade, yada yada yada... Inflation is bad over there. Pork is up over 50% year on year, the main staple meat in China. Income gap between farmers, ordinary workers, and professionals is widening rapidly. Going back to the board chat I hear, "If I see it's made in China, I'll put it back down. Everybody should do that." Suddenly refuse to buy any Chinese goods, and what will happen? Big loss of ordinary workers jobs, Chinese recession, destabalization of government, and enormous threat to world economy. Like in Blazing Saddles where the railroaders confront the sheriff and he points his gun at his own head and says, "Don't move, or the N...... gets it!" I remember reading about Kissinger speaking to Deng Zhao Ping and telling him that Chinese should be free to emmigrate out of communist China if they want to. According to what I read his response was: "How many do you want?" The point being that the best thing for the world is a prosperous China to keep the people there, not moving to other countries. That means helping them to get more advanced where they live whether it scares ordinary USA citizens or not who feel that the Chinese are catching up. I could go on and on. Ten years gave me a lot of points of perspective. But in summary I think we need to help them become properous to help ourselves at the same time, as contradictory as that may seem.
The White House and the Capital were among many buildings burned by the British during the war of 1812. Aside from the melamime dog food, glychol tooth paste, lead painted and date rape drug toys. Other issues such as artificially controlled currency, unprotected intellectual property, pollution, human rights, treatment of domesticated animals, lack of safe workplace requirements and censorship promted me to have not selected their goods for many many years. Also this blind reliance on Chinese goods has increased the influence and power of a Communist Nuclear Nation.
.....and to expand on that theme, nothing wrong with globalization, but don't bring your lifestyles, values (or lack of), language, traditions, and especially your religions here. They don't fit with the American Culture. We don't need this kind of stuff here, but may be popular on the east or West Coasts: Good Example from another emerging world power: I'm a dog lover, and this is an insult to the dog. Man in India Marries Dog As Atonement P. Selvakumar, left, places a garland on a sari-draped former stray female d... Tue Nov 13, 4:56 PM EST NEW DELHI A man in southern India married a female dog in a traditional Hindu ceremony as an attempt to atone for stoning two other dogs to death _ an act he believes cursed him _ a newspaper reported Tuesday. P. Selvakumar married the sari-draped former stray named Selvi, chosen by family members and then bathed and clothed for the ceremony Sunday at a Hindu temple in the southern state of Tamil Nadu, the Hindustan Times newspaper said. Selvakumar, 33, told the paper he had been suffering since he stoned two dogs to death and hung their bodies from a tree 15 years ago. "After that my legs and hands got paralyzed and I lost hearing in one ear," he said in the report. The paper said an astrologer had told Selvakumar the wedding was the only way he could cure the maladies. It did not say whether his situation had improved. Deeply superstitious people in rural India sometimes organize weddings to dogs and other animals, believing it can ward off certain curses. The paper showed a picture of Selvakumar sitting next to the dog, which was wearing an orange sari and a flower garland. The paper said the groom and his family then had a feast, while the dog got a bun.
I don't know how the divorce laws are in that country, but if the marriage doesn't work out, that guy could literally find himself in the doghouse. :laugh:
Was hoping that posting this would get this thread back on the humor side, the way Casey intended it. No need for the political crap here.
That sums it for me. Here's a question: What two things form the foundation of an ecomomy? And if you know the answers how's the US doing in those categories?
You'd think I copied from this article..... Thing is I've seen and known this was coming for years and years. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311805,00.html
Ever hear of a couple Japanese metal bands from the 80s? EZO and Loudness? Not bad, actually. Umm... I hate imagining any version of Def Leppard. I liked their early stuff, but the later stuff was a bit too "money."
I liked their early stuff, but the later stuff was a bit too "money." plussity plus plus. yeah, anything after Pyromania is iffy, at best. overproduced and boring. Umm... I hate imagining any version of Def Leppard. I liked their early stuff okay, i give up. which phrase do you actually mean? :spank:
The problem I am having with the dealings we are having with China at our company are is they are always taking a new short cut in processing the parts we recieve from them and we don't find the short coming untill after our customer is complaining at us. One of the products we had built over there had been pirated by another firm right down to our company name casted on the unit and it was such an inferrior product we could not sell ours at all. We had to drop our name off of the unit just to be able to sell it. Our company has been slowly removing product away from China to other sources due to the problems we have had.
Our company has been slowly removing product away from China to other sources due to the problems we have had. i'm shocked! shocked, i say!
