New B4B's in stock...

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by tommieboy, Sep 24, 2004.

  1. tommieboy

    tommieboy Well-Known Member

    If you've ever wanted one, you can now get them new through TA Performance.

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  2. white72gs455

    white72gs455 Going Fast With Class!!!

    2004 edelbrock catalog shows them as well... price TBA. Maybe save a nickel for some 93 octane feul. :3gears:
     
  3. jpoole

    jpoole Stage 1

    Is the stock B4B better performing than a stock performer?
     
  4. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    Yea, I thought someone just did an intake test here and found that there was only about a 5 HP gain with T/A's aluminum intake. Will this one deliver more? Can you use your stock ram air cleaner this time?
     
  5. Brett Slater

    Brett Slater Super Moderator Staff Member

    Very, VERY smart marketing on Edelbrock's part....
     
  6. tommieboy

    tommieboy Well-Known Member

    Look at is this way, it's better than the factory manifold (not by much stock out of the box), but weighs a lot less. For those who don't have the factory ram air cleaner, we now have two choices from Edelbrock that will fit under the hood. Though cheaper to just bolt on an SPX or SP-1 if you want to flow some big numbers, the B4B can also ported and flowed to support some pretty big numbers too. So...when you see grandma at the drive-in with her old school 107 "Window Rattler", B4B and Carter 1000 CFM Thermoquad sitting under the hood, you'd better show her a little respect. :)

    No. That's why Edelbrock made the Performer manifold. The carb pad locations are different between the two manifolds. Some guys use the B4B with the stock ram air cleaners, but only at shows with the hood up. They slap on an open air cleaner when the show is over and put the factory air cleaner in the trunk. :)
     
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  7. tommieboy

    tommieboy Well-Known Member

    Years ago when the B4B was discontinued, Edelbrock claimed the molds were too worn out to use anymore. So it seems strange that they would spend the money to recreate the B4B in lieu of a newer high rise air-gap dual plane that seems to be the rage at this time. I think that would have been smarter marketing and better for the Buick community.
     
  8. tdacton

    tdacton Gold Level Contributor

    I do have an original air cleaner on my car with a B4B.

    I have a 72 with a B4B. It has the original air cleaner on it and I have only one issue. The Foams are very compressed. So, you would have to have a new set for the shows and use a very short set for normal driving. I will not be able to take a picture today, but I can post one if you want me to tomorrow.
    Troy
     
  9. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    I'd like to see a pic.
     
  10. tdacton

    tdacton Gold Level Contributor

    Phil, I'm going outside right now.

    I will be right back.
    Troy
     
  11. tdacton

    tdacton Gold Level Contributor

    I'm back

    Here is the first.
     

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  12. tdacton

    tdacton Gold Level Contributor

    Squish

    last one, if you want some other view, I will try.
    Troy
     

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  13. Brett Slater

    Brett Slater Super Moderator Staff Member

    I guess Troy's dispelled that old myth, huh???
     
  14. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    You can use the ram air Air Cleaner with the B4B, but the foam openings do not line up with the hood openings. The air cleaner is shifted foward, because the carb mounting pad on the manifold is farther foward. This results in the intake runners being more equal in length.
     
  15. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    How far off are we talking? 1/2" or 4"? Just wondering.
     
  16. tommieboy

    tommieboy Well-Known Member

    I think about 1".
     
  17. allioop108

    allioop108 Well-Known Member

    b4b vs performer

    So if the intake runners are more equal in length, does this mean the b4b has a performance advantage over the performer manifold. In other words given the choice of the two, with the option to have gessler porting work them over, which is the better starting point?

    Allen
    allioop108@aol.com
     
  18. Dan Healey

    Dan Healey Well-Known Member

    Not really

    JW had some dyno results, & I think the B4B had about a 1-4hp advantage, no big difference. :bglasses:
     
  19. tommieboy

    tommieboy Well-Known Member

    It probably depends on your HP level. I would think that the intake with the carb more centered over the intake ports (the B4B) would be a better starting point, especially if you're going to have them reworked by Gessler. I 'll e-mail Greg and ask for his opinion on this subject.
     
  20. tommieboy

    tommieboy Well-Known Member

    Was the B4B stock out of the box, or reworked?
     

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