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Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Mart, Nov 24, 2017.

  1. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    IF, a BIG IF, that snap ring can be installed in the rear why would there be a need to clean up the face of the block??? Since it's not going to rub anyway.
    Just another thought. Could be onto something new, never know till it's tried.


    Tom T.
     
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  2. gsjohnny1

    gsjohnny1 Well-Known Member

    so what are you guys going to do to fix this..........
     
  3. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    Stay tuned, the engine needs to come out first.
     
  4. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    We need to do some comparison measuring, it may be a chain misalignment issue from the cam shoulder in the wrong spot? If that is the case then the snap ring would gall into the back side of the cam until it is aligned where it wants to be, back in the block groove possibly?

    A snap ring can be installed easy enough in the rear of the block with a rotary table and a keyway cutter.


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  5. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    I have narrower carbide keyseat cutters that that! Think snap ring, not key!;)
    Yes, snap ring is a great idea, as long as nothing is out of alignment, causing the timing gearset to force the cam towards the rear. Could get an eaten snap ring! I think snap ring idea may be an added preventive measure.
    Tony; Could use type of spacer against blk to check runout, but alignment is where I'm really thinking the problem is. Going to compare a flat tappet cam against this roller for distance from fuel eccentric shoulder to cam shoulder that locates against blk. They should be the exactly same for gearset/chain alignment.

    Ok, I took advantage of somewhat warm weather this morning and tackled header removal, (those playful center bolts again!), starter, pwr. steering pump, trans mounting bolts, etc. Everything is taken apart, eng. is ready to pull soon. I need to get this eng on a stand for further teardown & inspection. Tired of leaning over the fenders & grill. :D

    Guess what.... 1512517260940-1538131386.jpg It's martini time for Mart!
     
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  6. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    One thing is for certain, I would add that oil line to the dist gear to make dang sure it is protected.
     
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  7. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    15125199547761997634251.jpg Yup, oil mods up the azz:DMaybe this will turnout pretty good. The roller sbb cam will be advanced in retrofit, and I might be in a book!:D
     
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  8. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    That key cutter was a picture reference I got off of the interwebs and is smaller than it looks. The cutter thickness is supposed to be 1/16" which would be good for a 1/16" thick snap ring.
     
  9. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Mart, your garage is too clean, brightly lit, and roomy LOL!
    I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but have you checked your distributor shaft end play?
    I'm going to theorize here, but if the cam is allowed to walk forward so far, shouldn't the distributor shaft be allowed to move the same amount up and down?
    Not sure it makes any difference, just curious:cool:
     
  10. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    ^ good point, stock Distributors have around .060 sometimes more of end play, the MSD stuff is alot tighter
     
  11. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    ⬆That is a good point Mark! I'll have to research that.
    Sure don't want the timing jumping around though.
     
  12. 8ad-f85

    8ad-f85 Well-Known Member

    With less than .005" end play, you'd think it would just advance or retard the timing.
     
  13. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    Wouldn't that be the thits if the end play was not enough on the distributor and it shoved the cam into the motor. Have you figured out the real cause of the problem? Was it the cam button with not enough end play or something else.

    That garage is extra clean, and don't spill anything on it! lol
     
  14. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    You guys! Cell phone takes unrealistic & bright shots!:D

    In case you need to know, the concrete floor is just stained with Behr solid color concrete stain....Home Depot.....holds up rather well!
     
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  15. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    Yeah, garage is much darker in person, one heck of a flash on his camera to brighten it up that much.
     
  16. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    any excuse is better than none lol
     
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  17. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    So now you might as well put the comp to 11-12-1 run race gas and be done with it. Make that SP block live up to it's name. Go 12-1 why mess around you have enough cam and you got the 3 so lets ROCK. Somebody has to stop horsing around and put it to the pavement.

    It'll be the Fastest street 350 around the big Mich.

    Come on, you can do it !!!!1!!!!!!!!!!
     
  18. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    I can say with having first hand experience riding in the car that it is probably more than likely the fastest N/A street driven pump gas sbb 350 in Michigan already!:cool:
     
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  20. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    You got corn up in MI?
     

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