paint colors

Discussion in 'Color is everything!' started by 61powerhouse, Jul 21, 2005.

  1. 61powerhouse

    61powerhouse Member

    I have a 61 lesabre conv. that will be getting painted in about 4 weeks and i'm still pondering what color to go with. The original color is Bimini Blue. I never really cared for that color. The eniter car is original except the chrome as every peice on the car has been re-chromed to show chrome. I am definitely going with a solid blue color maybe Super Blue. Any picters or suggestions with be greatly appreciated. I want a great shine to the car. Thanks Mark
     
  2. 61powerhouse

    61powerhouse Member

    thanks for the help!! Ha Ha
     
  3. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    A lot like stratomist blue == an early 70s color. Use the search key and type in that word for cars painted this color.
     
  4. thepartsman

    thepartsman Back Ordered Again ?

    You say you are looking for a shade of "blue"
    Buick
    1947-Regency Blue Metallic-202-39286
    Nightshade Blue Metallic-202-51568
    both are very dark, depending on the light, each could pass for black.

    1953- Reef Blue Poly-code 77-DAL-10960-DQE
    1956- Electric Blue Poly-56D-DAL-11503-DQE
    1958- Colonial Blue Metallic-58F-202-91624
    1970-Gulfstream Blue-code 25-A2261
    1986-Medium Blue Firemist-code 94-WA8545-Ditzler 3792
    1987-GM had 12 shades of blue

    a few of my favorite Buick SHADES of blue
     
  5. MARTINSR

    MARTINSR Well-Known Member

    Basics of Basics Color choice
    By Brian Martin

    Color choice is so much more than simply picking a color because you like it. Not every color works on every car. Some will argue to each his own or Its your car, paint it what ever you want. This is true, but you are painting it to look better, right? Why just get color on it for the sake of getting color on it. Why paint your favorite color on it when your favorite color is not going to make the car look its best?

    We have all heard that black will show waves or poor bodywork. White on the other hand hides them. This is just the start of color choice. We can agree that even though you may love black cars, painting a wavy old beast a cut and buffed black would be wrong. It goes beyond taste, it is just plain wrong, if your desire is a nice looking car.

    There are a few different issues when talking about color choice.

    Cost:

    IF you have a budget for your paint you best check on the cost before you commit to a color. In one brand of basecoat a price can go from approximately $185.00 to $420.00 a gallon. Any color with a lot of red or pearl is going to be more expensive, for instance. These are not custom colors, just regular old colors off new cars. Whether you plan on BC/CC (base coat/ clear coat) or SS (single stage, where no clear is applied over it) will effect cost. Pick a color and go to your paint store to see all costs, color, clear, hardeners, reducers, any sealers you may want, etc. You dont want to be surprised when the car is sitting there ready for paint.

    Resale Value:

    Yeah, I know, youll never sell it. Well, I have to tell you, you most likely will someday. There are lots of cars painted pastel pink from the 1980s that are darn near un-sellable today. I know of one, a friend of mine passed away unexpectedly and his wife almost had to give away his 34 Ford. It would have probably gotten up to $10,000 more if it werent an outdated trendy color from the 80s. Really watch those trendy colors, they can kill you.

    Does the color work on this particular body style:

    Not all cars look good in all colors. Again, I am not talking taste here, I mean some colors just DONT work on every car. There is a stock bodied 4dr 59 Cad in my area that is painted a fire engine red, I am sorry, it doesnt work. In fact, it looks like hell. Is that just my opinion, well yes and no. It is also the publics opinion in large part, too. GM spends a LOT of time and money on marketing and research to come up with the colors it offers. That red would not be a color offered on that car for good reason. This is a very gray area (if you will pardon the pun), it does come down to opinion. But it is like speaking your mind about politics, sure you have the right, but you better know the room, or you will suffer the consequences. The resale of the Cad is in the tank. The likelihood of a crowd gathering around it at a show is in the tank. He took the chance when he opened the can. Because of this rule it is not likely you will ever see a white Ferrari or a candy apple red Rolls Royce.

    What do you want the color to do:

    This is where we return to the black shows waves stuff. Sure black shows waves, but did you know it hides body lines? Thats right, it softens body lines. If you have a car with features you want to hide, black is the color. This is one of the reasons it is known for being mysterious. It hides a lot, leaving it up to the imagination. It also makes the car look smaller. I am not kidding, park a black 68 Camaro next to a white one and you darn near have to take a measuring tape out to prove they are the same car.
    On something like a 27 Ford model T the doors lay on top of the cowl and quarters. It kinda looks like a tire patch on the side of the car. In black they melt in and dont pop out as much.

    White is just the opposite, it may hide waves in flat panels, but it shows off body lines. This includes how STRAIGHT the lines are. Panel fit is very critical with white. The gaps look like black pin stripes, if they are not perfect it will look like wavy inconsistent width stripes.

    We all know what black and white do, any other color just falls in the middle. It is a sliding scale, the darker the color the more its effects are like black and the lighter the color the more its effects are like white, simple.

    Graphics, stripes, two tones:

    You have to really watch what you do with color when it comes to combinations like with two tones and stripes. They can cut a car up or distort it. Remember those black and white Camaros I mentioned? Well, paint the top half of your car white and the bottom black and it will look a black Camaro with a camper shell sitting on top. I remember a beautiful Cuda here in town when I was a kid. It had a black stripe down the side that thickened into an arrow shape at the rear on the quarters. Every single time I saw that car it looked like the trunk was open! I would see it out of the corner of my eye and it looked like the darn thing was driving down the road with the trunk open!

    A two tone 50 Chevy coupe with a chopped top wouldnt even looked chopped if the top color was white and the bottom was black. The roof would look TALLER than stock, just because of the color. Like I said, you cant pick a color just because you Like it.

    Take some pictures of the car, blow them up, then color them with felt pens to see what your thoughts look like on the car. It is far cheaper than paint!

    Tip 1. There are thousands and thousands of colors out there. To pick one from that huge pallet would be very hard. This is what I feel is the best way to start the color search, find a car the color you want and get the color code off it. It is that simple, the new car lots are full of cars in every color imaginable; find the color and there you will find the exact code of that color.

    Tip 2. When you go to get your paint at the paint store ask if there are any alternates or variants of the color you have chosen. These alternates can be VERY, VERY different from the standard color. The car you may have seen was one of these alternate colors. These alternate colors are different batches if you will.

    Tip 3. DO NOT PICK THE COLOR OUT OF A CHIP BOOK! These chips are usually not even paint, they are ink. They are a close representation of the color, they are NOT the color. (for instance the alternates will not even be represented in the chip books) .

    Tip 4. I highly recommend you buy a pint of the color you have chosen, take it home and spray it out. Use an old fender or something and really get a good feeling for the color before you lay out your hard earned dough for a gallon or two. This is not only to see if the color is right, but to see if it covers well, and just how easy it will be to paint. The difference between colors and brands can be night and day in how user friendly they are. If you find that the color is nice but it takes 6 coats to cover, you may want to change the color choice or change the brand of paint. Some value lines can be very transparent, so you save no money because you may have to put on twice as much. A high pearl or metallic color may model easily, that may be a reason to scrap the color or brand.

    Tip 5. After you have your color picked for goodness sakes dont be a cheapie when buying your paint. Figure out how much youll need for the whole job. We are talking every thing you plan on painting, outside, inside, dash, jambs, trunk, everything. When you have an idea how much, add at the very least 20% more. If one gallon is enough, buy another quart. Buy all the paint you will need before you start painting anything. Get a few extra gallon cans and use them to intermix ALL the paint. You then have all the paint you need, no mismatched parts, no running out, you are set to go. If you have a quart left over when you are done, so what? Running out of paint is NOT pretty, it is a disaster in many cases. Now, why intermix? This is a VERY painful lesson you dont want to learn the hard way. This is it in a nutshell, if you were to go to the paint store and have three gallons of the same formula mixed you would end up with three different colors! I will bet you a dollar, here is why. Some toners are very strong, just a drip will change the color. A couple of different people could mix them, some people mix better than others. There are other variables such as one toner used gets emptied and the next toner used has more solvent in it because it is new and has less strength. Now, these colors may not be that different. If you were to paint three different cars with those gallons you may not even see it. But if you were to paint your hood, fenders, and quarters with the three different gallons you sure would! I repeat, this is a VERY painful lesson you dont want to have to learn the hard way, BUY ALL YOUR PAINT UP FRONT.

    Tip 6. If you follow tip #5 you can skip this one. It is something that comes up once and a while. When you have chosen BC/CC, SS, Lacquer, enamel, what ever, paint the WHOLE car the same. Dont paint the jambs SS and the outside BC/CC or something like that. Yes, it can work, but seldom does. The formula for the SS and BC of the same color is NOT (usually) the same. The SS paint is not just the BC that you dont put clear over. For that matter just clearing a color will change it.

    I could bore you with example after example of how I learned this information. Follow these simple tips and you will have fun doing your car, instead of experiencing the pain on your own. These are lessons that are very painful, believe me.

    Let me also say that I love color. It has been a big part of my life for over 25 years. I can appreciate just about any color as long as it is done nice. That does not mean that any color belongs on any car. It also doesnt mean that because I would like a car a particular color that I would paint it that color. It has to work or it was a waste of time and money. There are many cars that you have seen grace the front cover of a magazine that would be a big ZERO if it were painted another color. And likewise there are many cars that just dont get the attention they deserve because they were painted the wrong color.

    This may be the only car you ever restore, or at the very least one of only a few. The time you take to pick the color is time very well spent, that I guarantee you.
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  6. Santina

    Santina Well-Known Member

    MARTINSR, Wow, that is the best article I have ever read about auto paint. Thanks for taking the time to post it. My son has been back and forth about choosing a paint color (car should be ready for paint any day now) and is currently favoring Saturn Yellow W/GSX stripes. I am going to require that he read your article.
     

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